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In my network, I have a reliable NTP server which all PCs are synchronized to. Due to the various problems the Windows Time service is known for (at least in Windows 7 and lower versions), I have disabled it on the Windows machines and instead have installed Meinberg's port of NTPD for Windows.



This has reliably worked for many years on all PCs I ever tested, but today I have got a problem with one of my Windows machines (Windows 7 Pro x64, all updates applied at the time of this writing).



Please note that C:Program Files (x86)NTPetcntp.conf on that machine is literally the same as on all other Windows PCs on that network, except for the last line (see below).



ntpd.conf (on the problematic machine, some comments removed):



restrict default noquery nopeer nomodify notrap  
restrict -6 default noquery nopeer nomodify notrap

# allow status queries and everything else from localhost
restrict 127.0.0.1
restrict -6 ::1

# if you need to allow access from a remote host, you can add lines like this:
# restrict <IP OF REMOTE HOST>

# Use drift file
driftfile "C:Program Files (x86)NTPetcntp.drift"

# Use specific NTP servers
server timeserver.in.my.local.network iburst minpoll 6 maxpoll 7

# End of generated ntp.conf --- Please edit this to suite your needs

interface ignore wildcard
interface ignore ipv6
interface listen 127.0.0.1
interface listen 192.168.20.100


Of course, the last line is is different on different PCs. And yes, I indeed do not want ntpd to listen on each interface / IP address, but just on the "main" IP address and on localhost.



The problem:



As a first quick test I do on every PC after installation, I opened cmd32 as administrator on the PC in question and ran



C:Program Files (x86)NTP>ntpq -p


This resulted in the following error message:



ntpq: read: No such file or directory


I was first believing what it said and analyzed its behavior with ProcessMonitor, but to no avail. I couldn't find any hint that it could not open a file. I scratched my head for a while and then tried



C:Program Files (x86)NTP>ntpq -p 192.168.20.100


This time, I got



192.168.20.100: timed out, nothing received
***Request timed out


So, obviously, in accordance with my conclusions from ProcessMonitor, there is no problem with reading a file, but perhaps with opening the network device.



Weirdly enough,



C:Program Files (x86)NTP>ntpq -p 127.0.0.1


yielded the expected result:



     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==============================================================================
*192.168.20.10 ( 192.53.103.108 2 u 8 128 377 0.977 0.194 0.977


This made me scratch my head again. For testing, I turned off the Windows firewall on that PC (and there is no other firewall installed there), but ntpq -p and ntpq -p 192.168.20.100 still were throwing the same error messages as before.



As a last test, I ran



C:Program Files (x86)NTP>netstat -abno


and got



Active Connections

...
UDP 127.0.0.1:123 *:* 5076
[ntpd.exe]
...
UDP 192.168.20.100:123 *:* 5076
[ntpd.exe]
...


So ntpd listens on the IP addresses from the configuration file as expected.



Of course, restarting the service and even rebooting that PC did not help.



Now I am running out of ideas. What could be the cause that ntpq can talk to one of the IP addresses ntpd listens on, but not to the other one, even when the firewall is turned off completely?










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    In my network, I have a reliable NTP server which all PCs are synchronized to. Due to the various problems the Windows Time service is known for (at least in Windows 7 and lower versions), I have disabled it on the Windows machines and instead have installed Meinberg's port of NTPD for Windows.



    This has reliably worked for many years on all PCs I ever tested, but today I have got a problem with one of my Windows machines (Windows 7 Pro x64, all updates applied at the time of this writing).



    Please note that C:Program Files (x86)NTPetcntp.conf on that machine is literally the same as on all other Windows PCs on that network, except for the last line (see below).



    ntpd.conf (on the problematic machine, some comments removed):



    restrict default noquery nopeer nomodify notrap  
    restrict -6 default noquery nopeer nomodify notrap

    # allow status queries and everything else from localhost
    restrict 127.0.0.1
    restrict -6 ::1

    # if you need to allow access from a remote host, you can add lines like this:
    # restrict <IP OF REMOTE HOST>

    # Use drift file
    driftfile "C:Program Files (x86)NTPetcntp.drift"

    # Use specific NTP servers
    server timeserver.in.my.local.network iburst minpoll 6 maxpoll 7

    # End of generated ntp.conf --- Please edit this to suite your needs

    interface ignore wildcard
    interface ignore ipv6
    interface listen 127.0.0.1
    interface listen 192.168.20.100


    Of course, the last line is is different on different PCs. And yes, I indeed do not want ntpd to listen on each interface / IP address, but just on the "main" IP address and on localhost.



    The problem:



    As a first quick test I do on every PC after installation, I opened cmd32 as administrator on the PC in question and ran



    C:Program Files (x86)NTP>ntpq -p


    This resulted in the following error message:



    ntpq: read: No such file or directory


    I was first believing what it said and analyzed its behavior with ProcessMonitor, but to no avail. I couldn't find any hint that it could not open a file. I scratched my head for a while and then tried



    C:Program Files (x86)NTP>ntpq -p 192.168.20.100


    This time, I got



    192.168.20.100: timed out, nothing received
    ***Request timed out


    So, obviously, in accordance with my conclusions from ProcessMonitor, there is no problem with reading a file, but perhaps with opening the network device.



    Weirdly enough,



    C:Program Files (x86)NTP>ntpq -p 127.0.0.1


    yielded the expected result:



         remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
    ==============================================================================
    *192.168.20.10 ( 192.53.103.108 2 u 8 128 377 0.977 0.194 0.977


    This made me scratch my head again. For testing, I turned off the Windows firewall on that PC (and there is no other firewall installed there), but ntpq -p and ntpq -p 192.168.20.100 still were throwing the same error messages as before.



    As a last test, I ran



    C:Program Files (x86)NTP>netstat -abno


    and got



    Active Connections

    ...
    UDP 127.0.0.1:123 *:* 5076
    [ntpd.exe]
    ...
    UDP 192.168.20.100:123 *:* 5076
    [ntpd.exe]
    ...


    So ntpd listens on the IP addresses from the configuration file as expected.



    Of course, restarting the service and even rebooting that PC did not help.



    Now I am running out of ideas. What could be the cause that ntpq can talk to one of the IP addresses ntpd listens on, but not to the other one, even when the firewall is turned off completely?










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      In my network, I have a reliable NTP server which all PCs are synchronized to. Due to the various problems the Windows Time service is known for (at least in Windows 7 and lower versions), I have disabled it on the Windows machines and instead have installed Meinberg's port of NTPD for Windows.



      This has reliably worked for many years on all PCs I ever tested, but today I have got a problem with one of my Windows machines (Windows 7 Pro x64, all updates applied at the time of this writing).



      Please note that C:Program Files (x86)NTPetcntp.conf on that machine is literally the same as on all other Windows PCs on that network, except for the last line (see below).



      ntpd.conf (on the problematic machine, some comments removed):



      restrict default noquery nopeer nomodify notrap  
      restrict -6 default noquery nopeer nomodify notrap

      # allow status queries and everything else from localhost
      restrict 127.0.0.1
      restrict -6 ::1

      # if you need to allow access from a remote host, you can add lines like this:
      # restrict <IP OF REMOTE HOST>

      # Use drift file
      driftfile "C:Program Files (x86)NTPetcntp.drift"

      # Use specific NTP servers
      server timeserver.in.my.local.network iburst minpoll 6 maxpoll 7

      # End of generated ntp.conf --- Please edit this to suite your needs

      interface ignore wildcard
      interface ignore ipv6
      interface listen 127.0.0.1
      interface listen 192.168.20.100


      Of course, the last line is is different on different PCs. And yes, I indeed do not want ntpd to listen on each interface / IP address, but just on the "main" IP address and on localhost.



      The problem:



      As a first quick test I do on every PC after installation, I opened cmd32 as administrator on the PC in question and ran



      C:Program Files (x86)NTP>ntpq -p


      This resulted in the following error message:



      ntpq: read: No such file or directory


      I was first believing what it said and analyzed its behavior with ProcessMonitor, but to no avail. I couldn't find any hint that it could not open a file. I scratched my head for a while and then tried



      C:Program Files (x86)NTP>ntpq -p 192.168.20.100


      This time, I got



      192.168.20.100: timed out, nothing received
      ***Request timed out


      So, obviously, in accordance with my conclusions from ProcessMonitor, there is no problem with reading a file, but perhaps with opening the network device.



      Weirdly enough,



      C:Program Files (x86)NTP>ntpq -p 127.0.0.1


      yielded the expected result:



           remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
      ==============================================================================
      *192.168.20.10 ( 192.53.103.108 2 u 8 128 377 0.977 0.194 0.977


      This made me scratch my head again. For testing, I turned off the Windows firewall on that PC (and there is no other firewall installed there), but ntpq -p and ntpq -p 192.168.20.100 still were throwing the same error messages as before.



      As a last test, I ran



      C:Program Files (x86)NTP>netstat -abno


      and got



      Active Connections

      ...
      UDP 127.0.0.1:123 *:* 5076
      [ntpd.exe]
      ...
      UDP 192.168.20.100:123 *:* 5076
      [ntpd.exe]
      ...


      So ntpd listens on the IP addresses from the configuration file as expected.



      Of course, restarting the service and even rebooting that PC did not help.



      Now I am running out of ideas. What could be the cause that ntpq can talk to one of the IP addresses ntpd listens on, but not to the other one, even when the firewall is turned off completely?










      share|improve this question













      In my network, I have a reliable NTP server which all PCs are synchronized to. Due to the various problems the Windows Time service is known for (at least in Windows 7 and lower versions), I have disabled it on the Windows machines and instead have installed Meinberg's port of NTPD for Windows.



      This has reliably worked for many years on all PCs I ever tested, but today I have got a problem with one of my Windows machines (Windows 7 Pro x64, all updates applied at the time of this writing).



      Please note that C:Program Files (x86)NTPetcntp.conf on that machine is literally the same as on all other Windows PCs on that network, except for the last line (see below).



      ntpd.conf (on the problematic machine, some comments removed):



      restrict default noquery nopeer nomodify notrap  
      restrict -6 default noquery nopeer nomodify notrap

      # allow status queries and everything else from localhost
      restrict 127.0.0.1
      restrict -6 ::1

      # if you need to allow access from a remote host, you can add lines like this:
      # restrict <IP OF REMOTE HOST>

      # Use drift file
      driftfile "C:Program Files (x86)NTPetcntp.drift"

      # Use specific NTP servers
      server timeserver.in.my.local.network iburst minpoll 6 maxpoll 7

      # End of generated ntp.conf --- Please edit this to suite your needs

      interface ignore wildcard
      interface ignore ipv6
      interface listen 127.0.0.1
      interface listen 192.168.20.100


      Of course, the last line is is different on different PCs. And yes, I indeed do not want ntpd to listen on each interface / IP address, but just on the "main" IP address and on localhost.



      The problem:



      As a first quick test I do on every PC after installation, I opened cmd32 as administrator on the PC in question and ran



      C:Program Files (x86)NTP>ntpq -p


      This resulted in the following error message:



      ntpq: read: No such file or directory


      I was first believing what it said and analyzed its behavior with ProcessMonitor, but to no avail. I couldn't find any hint that it could not open a file. I scratched my head for a while and then tried



      C:Program Files (x86)NTP>ntpq -p 192.168.20.100


      This time, I got



      192.168.20.100: timed out, nothing received
      ***Request timed out


      So, obviously, in accordance with my conclusions from ProcessMonitor, there is no problem with reading a file, but perhaps with opening the network device.



      Weirdly enough,



      C:Program Files (x86)NTP>ntpq -p 127.0.0.1


      yielded the expected result:



           remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
      ==============================================================================
      *192.168.20.10 ( 192.53.103.108 2 u 8 128 377 0.977 0.194 0.977


      This made me scratch my head again. For testing, I turned off the Windows firewall on that PC (and there is no other firewall installed there), but ntpq -p and ntpq -p 192.168.20.100 still were throwing the same error messages as before.



      As a last test, I ran



      C:Program Files (x86)NTP>netstat -abno


      and got



      Active Connections

      ...
      UDP 127.0.0.1:123 *:* 5076
      [ntpd.exe]
      ...
      UDP 192.168.20.100:123 *:* 5076
      [ntpd.exe]
      ...


      So ntpd listens on the IP addresses from the configuration file as expected.



      Of course, restarting the service and even rebooting that PC did not help.



      Now I am running out of ideas. What could be the cause that ntpq can talk to one of the IP addresses ntpd listens on, but not to the other one, even when the firewall is turned off completely?







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