Is it possible to restrict the number of copies which can be printed from a PDF?












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I have an application where a user can download a PDF for printing.



I want to be able to restrict the number of copies that can be printed.



Is it possible to digitally sign/restrict a PDF in this way?










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  • What would stop your users from simply putting those "limited copies" in their copying machine?
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    Dec 11 '08 at 9:31










  • Nothing of course, although for some content this is against the law.
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I have an application where a user can download a PDF for printing.



I want to be able to restrict the number of copies that can be printed.



Is it possible to digitally sign/restrict a PDF in this way?










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  • What would stop your users from simply putting those "limited copies" in their copying machine?
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  • Nothing of course, although for some content this is against the law.
    – Drew Gibson
    Dec 11 '08 at 9:46














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I have an application where a user can download a PDF for printing.



I want to be able to restrict the number of copies that can be printed.



Is it possible to digitally sign/restrict a PDF in this way?










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I have an application where a user can download a PDF for printing.



I want to be able to restrict the number of copies that can be printed.



Is it possible to digitally sign/restrict a PDF in this way?







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  • What would stop your users from simply putting those "limited copies" in their copying machine?
    – grapefrukt
    Dec 11 '08 at 9:31










  • Nothing of course, although for some content this is against the law.
    – Drew Gibson
    Dec 11 '08 at 9:46


















  • What would stop your users from simply putting those "limited copies" in their copying machine?
    – grapefrukt
    Dec 11 '08 at 9:31










  • Nothing of course, although for some content this is against the law.
    – Drew Gibson
    Dec 11 '08 at 9:46
















What would stop your users from simply putting those "limited copies" in their copying machine?
– grapefrukt
Dec 11 '08 at 9:31




What would stop your users from simply putting those "limited copies" in their copying machine?
– grapefrukt
Dec 11 '08 at 9:31












Nothing of course, although for some content this is against the law.
– Drew Gibson
Dec 11 '08 at 9:46




Nothing of course, although for some content this is against the law.
– Drew Gibson
Dec 11 '08 at 9:46










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Yes but you will need to use PDF DRM.



Most would consider DRM is a bad thing, and it is breakable.



You will probably have to pay a company to use their DRM software.



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    Basically, no. That would mean that you have to write somewhere the information of how many times the PDF has been printed. All that would be required to print it more time would be to make a copy of the file before printing, and print the copy. The original would still have the information that it is not printed.



    Worst case, it is always possible to print it once and make xerox copies after, so you dont gain much by being able to restrict the number of prints.






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    • This is incorrect, the number of printings can be restricted and this is commonly used, e.g. for academic paper PDF's where the person downloading will only be able to print a copy once.
      – Drew Gibson
      Dec 11 '08 at 9:44










    • It is easy to come up with the idea of giving the PDF a unique identify (an embedded GUID, encrypted or otherwise hidden so it's hard to change, I guess), and then putting the print-counter on a remote server. So it doesn't have to be in the file itself.
      – unwind
      Dec 11 '08 at 9:56



















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    I want to be able to resrict the number of copies that can be printed.




    The legal solution of copyright law is probably more appropriate than a technological one which may be questionable and/or annoying to customers.



    IEEE has a solution they use for their technical library documents, namely they are now merging the original document with a footer saying "Permission to use this document granted to _____@____.com" before serving it to everyone -- it doesn't stop someone from printing out the file or copying the file, but it does put the reader's name on the document so that if someone does print out 50,000 copies it will have their name on it & hence make legal enforcement of copyright law a little easier.






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      Yes but you will need to use PDF DRM.



      Most would consider DRM is a bad thing, and it is breakable.



      You will probably have to pay a company to use their DRM software.



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        Yes but you will need to use PDF DRM.



        Most would consider DRM is a bad thing, and it is breakable.



        You will probably have to pay a company to use their DRM software.



        Click here






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          Yes but you will need to use PDF DRM.



          Most would consider DRM is a bad thing, and it is breakable.



          You will probably have to pay a company to use their DRM software.



          Click here






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          Yes but you will need to use PDF DRM.



          Most would consider DRM is a bad thing, and it is breakable.



          You will probably have to pay a company to use their DRM software.



          Click here







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              Basically, no. That would mean that you have to write somewhere the information of how many times the PDF has been printed. All that would be required to print it more time would be to make a copy of the file before printing, and print the copy. The original would still have the information that it is not printed.



              Worst case, it is always possible to print it once and make xerox copies after, so you dont gain much by being able to restrict the number of prints.






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              • This is incorrect, the number of printings can be restricted and this is commonly used, e.g. for academic paper PDF's where the person downloading will only be able to print a copy once.
                – Drew Gibson
                Dec 11 '08 at 9:44










              • It is easy to come up with the idea of giving the PDF a unique identify (an embedded GUID, encrypted or otherwise hidden so it's hard to change, I guess), and then putting the print-counter on a remote server. So it doesn't have to be in the file itself.
                – unwind
                Dec 11 '08 at 9:56
















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              Basically, no. That would mean that you have to write somewhere the information of how many times the PDF has been printed. All that would be required to print it more time would be to make a copy of the file before printing, and print the copy. The original would still have the information that it is not printed.



              Worst case, it is always possible to print it once and make xerox copies after, so you dont gain much by being able to restrict the number of prints.






              share|improve this answer





















              • This is incorrect, the number of printings can be restricted and this is commonly used, e.g. for academic paper PDF's where the person downloading will only be able to print a copy once.
                – Drew Gibson
                Dec 11 '08 at 9:44










              • It is easy to come up with the idea of giving the PDF a unique identify (an embedded GUID, encrypted or otherwise hidden so it's hard to change, I guess), and then putting the print-counter on a remote server. So it doesn't have to be in the file itself.
                – unwind
                Dec 11 '08 at 9:56














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              Basically, no. That would mean that you have to write somewhere the information of how many times the PDF has been printed. All that would be required to print it more time would be to make a copy of the file before printing, and print the copy. The original would still have the information that it is not printed.



              Worst case, it is always possible to print it once and make xerox copies after, so you dont gain much by being able to restrict the number of prints.






              share|improve this answer












              Basically, no. That would mean that you have to write somewhere the information of how many times the PDF has been printed. All that would be required to print it more time would be to make a copy of the file before printing, and print the copy. The original would still have the information that it is not printed.



              Worst case, it is always possible to print it once and make xerox copies after, so you dont gain much by being able to restrict the number of prints.







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              answered Dec 11 '08 at 9:33









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              • This is incorrect, the number of printings can be restricted and this is commonly used, e.g. for academic paper PDF's where the person downloading will only be able to print a copy once.
                – Drew Gibson
                Dec 11 '08 at 9:44










              • It is easy to come up with the idea of giving the PDF a unique identify (an embedded GUID, encrypted or otherwise hidden so it's hard to change, I guess), and then putting the print-counter on a remote server. So it doesn't have to be in the file itself.
                – unwind
                Dec 11 '08 at 9:56


















              • This is incorrect, the number of printings can be restricted and this is commonly used, e.g. for academic paper PDF's where the person downloading will only be able to print a copy once.
                – Drew Gibson
                Dec 11 '08 at 9:44










              • It is easy to come up with the idea of giving the PDF a unique identify (an embedded GUID, encrypted or otherwise hidden so it's hard to change, I guess), and then putting the print-counter on a remote server. So it doesn't have to be in the file itself.
                – unwind
                Dec 11 '08 at 9:56
















              This is incorrect, the number of printings can be restricted and this is commonly used, e.g. for academic paper PDF's where the person downloading will only be able to print a copy once.
              – Drew Gibson
              Dec 11 '08 at 9:44




              This is incorrect, the number of printings can be restricted and this is commonly used, e.g. for academic paper PDF's where the person downloading will only be able to print a copy once.
              – Drew Gibson
              Dec 11 '08 at 9:44












              It is easy to come up with the idea of giving the PDF a unique identify (an embedded GUID, encrypted or otherwise hidden so it's hard to change, I guess), and then putting the print-counter on a remote server. So it doesn't have to be in the file itself.
              – unwind
              Dec 11 '08 at 9:56




              It is easy to come up with the idea of giving the PDF a unique identify (an embedded GUID, encrypted or otherwise hidden so it's hard to change, I guess), and then putting the print-counter on a remote server. So it doesn't have to be in the file itself.
              – unwind
              Dec 11 '08 at 9:56











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              I want to be able to resrict the number of copies that can be printed.




              The legal solution of copyright law is probably more appropriate than a technological one which may be questionable and/or annoying to customers.



              IEEE has a solution they use for their technical library documents, namely they are now merging the original document with a footer saying "Permission to use this document granted to _____@____.com" before serving it to everyone -- it doesn't stop someone from printing out the file or copying the file, but it does put the reader's name on the document so that if someone does print out 50,000 copies it will have their name on it & hence make legal enforcement of copyright law a little easier.






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                I want to be able to resrict the number of copies that can be printed.




                The legal solution of copyright law is probably more appropriate than a technological one which may be questionable and/or annoying to customers.



                IEEE has a solution they use for their technical library documents, namely they are now merging the original document with a footer saying "Permission to use this document granted to _____@____.com" before serving it to everyone -- it doesn't stop someone from printing out the file or copying the file, but it does put the reader's name on the document so that if someone does print out 50,000 copies it will have their name on it & hence make legal enforcement of copyright law a little easier.






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                  I want to be able to resrict the number of copies that can be printed.




                  The legal solution of copyright law is probably more appropriate than a technological one which may be questionable and/or annoying to customers.



                  IEEE has a solution they use for their technical library documents, namely they are now merging the original document with a footer saying "Permission to use this document granted to _____@____.com" before serving it to everyone -- it doesn't stop someone from printing out the file or copying the file, but it does put the reader's name on the document so that if someone does print out 50,000 copies it will have their name on it & hence make legal enforcement of copyright law a little easier.






                  share|improve this answer













                  I want to be able to resrict the number of copies that can be printed.




                  The legal solution of copyright law is probably more appropriate than a technological one which may be questionable and/or annoying to customers.



                  IEEE has a solution they use for their technical library documents, namely they are now merging the original document with a footer saying "Permission to use this document granted to _____@____.com" before serving it to everyone -- it doesn't stop someone from printing out the file or copying the file, but it does put the reader's name on the document so that if someone does print out 50,000 copies it will have their name on it & hence make legal enforcement of copyright law a little easier.







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