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I am trying to backup my failing external USB HDD Maxtor M3 4TB using ddrescue.



In the beginning, I was getting around 300kB/s so I ripped the external box and connected the drive directly via SATA to my desktop which improved the rate to around 700kB/s.
After playing with -a (Minimum read rate) -b (block size) -c (Number of sectors to copy at a time) I arrived at



-a 20M -b 4096B -c 2048


Above mentioned combination increased the rate to about 1800kB/s.
Moreover, the current rate fluctuates from a few bytes/s to 115MB/s with the overall average staying around mentioned 1800kB/s.
It feels as if it read at a normal 'healthy drive' rate for a sec and then hang to wait for some timeout and continuing at a reduced rate.



Do you have experience with other parameters that help improve the rate?
Since the whole 4TB drive will take about a month at the current rate any improvement is highly appreciated.



EDIT - Full command



The full command is



sudo ddrescue -a 20M -b 4096 -c 2048  -f -n -vv /dev/sdi /dev/sdh video_drive.log


EDIT 2 - Oh that's why it is so slow



The drive is failing in such a way that S.M.A.R.T. support is disabled at times, but during the periods it works, I noticed the high and increasing value of Read Error Rate and Hardware ECC Recovered fields.
I assume the ECC recovery is the reason why I see no errors and also the reason why the rate is so low.










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  • If the drive is damaged you just have to wait for the retries ...
    – DavidPostill
    Nov 28 at 21:47










  • I added the full command. As I understand the "-n" skips the retries, so it should not influence it for the first pass right?
    – badluck
    Nov 28 at 21:53






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    Possible duplicate of Is there any way to speed up ddrescue?
    – Kamil Maciorowski
    Nov 28 at 22:11










  • @KamilMaciorowski it is possibly a duplicate, but the difference is that I don't get errors, It's just very slow. That's why I thought maybe there is a way to speed things up.
    – badluck
    Nov 29 at 10:35















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I am trying to backup my failing external USB HDD Maxtor M3 4TB using ddrescue.



In the beginning, I was getting around 300kB/s so I ripped the external box and connected the drive directly via SATA to my desktop which improved the rate to around 700kB/s.
After playing with -a (Minimum read rate) -b (block size) -c (Number of sectors to copy at a time) I arrived at



-a 20M -b 4096B -c 2048


Above mentioned combination increased the rate to about 1800kB/s.
Moreover, the current rate fluctuates from a few bytes/s to 115MB/s with the overall average staying around mentioned 1800kB/s.
It feels as if it read at a normal 'healthy drive' rate for a sec and then hang to wait for some timeout and continuing at a reduced rate.



Do you have experience with other parameters that help improve the rate?
Since the whole 4TB drive will take about a month at the current rate any improvement is highly appreciated.



EDIT - Full command



The full command is



sudo ddrescue -a 20M -b 4096 -c 2048  -f -n -vv /dev/sdi /dev/sdh video_drive.log


EDIT 2 - Oh that's why it is so slow



The drive is failing in such a way that S.M.A.R.T. support is disabled at times, but during the periods it works, I noticed the high and increasing value of Read Error Rate and Hardware ECC Recovered fields.
I assume the ECC recovery is the reason why I see no errors and also the reason why the rate is so low.










share|improve this question
























  • If the drive is damaged you just have to wait for the retries ...
    – DavidPostill
    Nov 28 at 21:47










  • I added the full command. As I understand the "-n" skips the retries, so it should not influence it for the first pass right?
    – badluck
    Nov 28 at 21:53






  • 1




    Possible duplicate of Is there any way to speed up ddrescue?
    – Kamil Maciorowski
    Nov 28 at 22:11










  • @KamilMaciorowski it is possibly a duplicate, but the difference is that I don't get errors, It's just very slow. That's why I thought maybe there is a way to speed things up.
    – badluck
    Nov 29 at 10:35













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I am trying to backup my failing external USB HDD Maxtor M3 4TB using ddrescue.



In the beginning, I was getting around 300kB/s so I ripped the external box and connected the drive directly via SATA to my desktop which improved the rate to around 700kB/s.
After playing with -a (Minimum read rate) -b (block size) -c (Number of sectors to copy at a time) I arrived at



-a 20M -b 4096B -c 2048


Above mentioned combination increased the rate to about 1800kB/s.
Moreover, the current rate fluctuates from a few bytes/s to 115MB/s with the overall average staying around mentioned 1800kB/s.
It feels as if it read at a normal 'healthy drive' rate for a sec and then hang to wait for some timeout and continuing at a reduced rate.



Do you have experience with other parameters that help improve the rate?
Since the whole 4TB drive will take about a month at the current rate any improvement is highly appreciated.



EDIT - Full command



The full command is



sudo ddrescue -a 20M -b 4096 -c 2048  -f -n -vv /dev/sdi /dev/sdh video_drive.log


EDIT 2 - Oh that's why it is so slow



The drive is failing in such a way that S.M.A.R.T. support is disabled at times, but during the periods it works, I noticed the high and increasing value of Read Error Rate and Hardware ECC Recovered fields.
I assume the ECC recovery is the reason why I see no errors and also the reason why the rate is so low.










share|improve this question















I am trying to backup my failing external USB HDD Maxtor M3 4TB using ddrescue.



In the beginning, I was getting around 300kB/s so I ripped the external box and connected the drive directly via SATA to my desktop which improved the rate to around 700kB/s.
After playing with -a (Minimum read rate) -b (block size) -c (Number of sectors to copy at a time) I arrived at



-a 20M -b 4096B -c 2048


Above mentioned combination increased the rate to about 1800kB/s.
Moreover, the current rate fluctuates from a few bytes/s to 115MB/s with the overall average staying around mentioned 1800kB/s.
It feels as if it read at a normal 'healthy drive' rate for a sec and then hang to wait for some timeout and continuing at a reduced rate.



Do you have experience with other parameters that help improve the rate?
Since the whole 4TB drive will take about a month at the current rate any improvement is highly appreciated.



EDIT - Full command



The full command is



sudo ddrescue -a 20M -b 4096 -c 2048  -f -n -vv /dev/sdi /dev/sdh video_drive.log


EDIT 2 - Oh that's why it is so slow



The drive is failing in such a way that S.M.A.R.T. support is disabled at times, but during the periods it works, I noticed the high and increasing value of Read Error Rate and Hardware ECC Recovered fields.
I assume the ECC recovery is the reason why I see no errors and also the reason why the rate is so low.







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  • If the drive is damaged you just have to wait for the retries ...
    – DavidPostill
    Nov 28 at 21:47










  • I added the full command. As I understand the "-n" skips the retries, so it should not influence it for the first pass right?
    – badluck
    Nov 28 at 21:53






  • 1




    Possible duplicate of Is there any way to speed up ddrescue?
    – Kamil Maciorowski
    Nov 28 at 22:11










  • @KamilMaciorowski it is possibly a duplicate, but the difference is that I don't get errors, It's just very slow. That's why I thought maybe there is a way to speed things up.
    – badluck
    Nov 29 at 10:35


















  • If the drive is damaged you just have to wait for the retries ...
    – DavidPostill
    Nov 28 at 21:47










  • I added the full command. As I understand the "-n" skips the retries, so it should not influence it for the first pass right?
    – badluck
    Nov 28 at 21:53






  • 1




    Possible duplicate of Is there any way to speed up ddrescue?
    – Kamil Maciorowski
    Nov 28 at 22:11










  • @KamilMaciorowski it is possibly a duplicate, but the difference is that I don't get errors, It's just very slow. That's why I thought maybe there is a way to speed things up.
    – badluck
    Nov 29 at 10:35
















If the drive is damaged you just have to wait for the retries ...
– DavidPostill
Nov 28 at 21:47




If the drive is damaged you just have to wait for the retries ...
– DavidPostill
Nov 28 at 21:47












I added the full command. As I understand the "-n" skips the retries, so it should not influence it for the first pass right?
– badluck
Nov 28 at 21:53




I added the full command. As I understand the "-n" skips the retries, so it should not influence it for the first pass right?
– badluck
Nov 28 at 21:53




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1




Possible duplicate of Is there any way to speed up ddrescue?
– Kamil Maciorowski
Nov 28 at 22:11




Possible duplicate of Is there any way to speed up ddrescue?
– Kamil Maciorowski
Nov 28 at 22:11












@KamilMaciorowski it is possibly a duplicate, but the difference is that I don't get errors, It's just very slow. That's why I thought maybe there is a way to speed things up.
– badluck
Nov 29 at 10:35




@KamilMaciorowski it is possibly a duplicate, but the difference is that I don't get errors, It's just very slow. That's why I thought maybe there is a way to speed things up.
– badluck
Nov 29 at 10:35










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When ddrescue reads the disk, it has to read every block. It cannot know in advance which blocks are bad. So it will inevitably try to read a bad block. The disk will try very hard to correctly read this block before giving up and returning an error. This behavior cannot be disabled or controlled on consumer-grade hard drives.



So even without ddrescue retrying, bad blocks will slow down the process a lot. There is nothing you can do except keep going.






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  • When it reads the bad block it increases the errors, right? But since the errors parameter does not increase I assume it's not encountering any error.
    – badluck
    Nov 29 at 10:31










  • The hard drive could always succeed at making those blocks readable, too! Which would be even better for you, because you'd get the data.
    – Daniel B
    Nov 29 at 12:53











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When ddrescue reads the disk, it has to read every block. It cannot know in advance which blocks are bad. So it will inevitably try to read a bad block. The disk will try very hard to correctly read this block before giving up and returning an error. This behavior cannot be disabled or controlled on consumer-grade hard drives.



So even without ddrescue retrying, bad blocks will slow down the process a lot. There is nothing you can do except keep going.






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  • When it reads the bad block it increases the errors, right? But since the errors parameter does not increase I assume it's not encountering any error.
    – badluck
    Nov 29 at 10:31










  • The hard drive could always succeed at making those blocks readable, too! Which would be even better for you, because you'd get the data.
    – Daniel B
    Nov 29 at 12:53















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When ddrescue reads the disk, it has to read every block. It cannot know in advance which blocks are bad. So it will inevitably try to read a bad block. The disk will try very hard to correctly read this block before giving up and returning an error. This behavior cannot be disabled or controlled on consumer-grade hard drives.



So even without ddrescue retrying, bad blocks will slow down the process a lot. There is nothing you can do except keep going.






share|improve this answer





















  • When it reads the bad block it increases the errors, right? But since the errors parameter does not increase I assume it's not encountering any error.
    – badluck
    Nov 29 at 10:31










  • The hard drive could always succeed at making those blocks readable, too! Which would be even better for you, because you'd get the data.
    – Daniel B
    Nov 29 at 12:53













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When ddrescue reads the disk, it has to read every block. It cannot know in advance which blocks are bad. So it will inevitably try to read a bad block. The disk will try very hard to correctly read this block before giving up and returning an error. This behavior cannot be disabled or controlled on consumer-grade hard drives.



So even without ddrescue retrying, bad blocks will slow down the process a lot. There is nothing you can do except keep going.






share|improve this answer












When ddrescue reads the disk, it has to read every block. It cannot know in advance which blocks are bad. So it will inevitably try to read a bad block. The disk will try very hard to correctly read this block before giving up and returning an error. This behavior cannot be disabled or controlled on consumer-grade hard drives.



So even without ddrescue retrying, bad blocks will slow down the process a lot. There is nothing you can do except keep going.







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  • When it reads the bad block it increases the errors, right? But since the errors parameter does not increase I assume it's not encountering any error.
    – badluck
    Nov 29 at 10:31










  • The hard drive could always succeed at making those blocks readable, too! Which would be even better for you, because you'd get the data.
    – Daniel B
    Nov 29 at 12:53


















  • When it reads the bad block it increases the errors, right? But since the errors parameter does not increase I assume it's not encountering any error.
    – badluck
    Nov 29 at 10:31










  • The hard drive could always succeed at making those blocks readable, too! Which would be even better for you, because you'd get the data.
    – Daniel B
    Nov 29 at 12:53
















When it reads the bad block it increases the errors, right? But since the errors parameter does not increase I assume it's not encountering any error.
– badluck
Nov 29 at 10:31




When it reads the bad block it increases the errors, right? But since the errors parameter does not increase I assume it's not encountering any error.
– badluck
Nov 29 at 10:31












The hard drive could always succeed at making those blocks readable, too! Which would be even better for you, because you'd get the data.
– Daniel B
Nov 29 at 12:53




The hard drive could always succeed at making those blocks readable, too! Which would be even better for you, because you'd get the data.
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