Sorting files and folders with underscore at the beginning












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I use an underscore at the beginning of file and folder names to mark them as something "special". But this sorting doesn't work for the most programs under Linux. I tried LC_COLLATE=C ls and other locales but the results are something strange. Let's say I have these folders:



2
A
_F
G
K
S
x4


This is the sort order of ls. When I use LC_COLLATE=C ls, I have this:



2
A
G
K
S
_F
x4


I have this under Xubuntu 18.04 using the xfce-terminal-emulator on 2 machines.



What is wrong here?










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    How do you expect them to sort?
    – George Udosen
    Dec 22 '18 at 7:30






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    @GeorgeUdosen I think OP wants the special characters to placed first/ higher in list.
    – Sourav Ghosh
    Dec 22 '18 at 7:32








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    Even at that we are still guessing as OPs results could be any thing!
    – George Udosen
    Dec 22 '18 at 7:41










  • i want to sort the files/folders like dolphin (kde file manager) sorts them. all folder first, the all files. folders with underscore at top of al folders, the same with files with underscore at the beginning.
    – fmeier
    Jan 1 at 17:23
















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I use an underscore at the beginning of file and folder names to mark them as something "special". But this sorting doesn't work for the most programs under Linux. I tried LC_COLLATE=C ls and other locales but the results are something strange. Let's say I have these folders:



2
A
_F
G
K
S
x4


This is the sort order of ls. When I use LC_COLLATE=C ls, I have this:



2
A
G
K
S
_F
x4


I have this under Xubuntu 18.04 using the xfce-terminal-emulator on 2 machines.



What is wrong here?










share|improve this question




















  • 3




    How do you expect them to sort?
    – George Udosen
    Dec 22 '18 at 7:30






  • 1




    @GeorgeUdosen I think OP wants the special characters to placed first/ higher in list.
    – Sourav Ghosh
    Dec 22 '18 at 7:32








  • 1




    Even at that we are still guessing as OPs results could be any thing!
    – George Udosen
    Dec 22 '18 at 7:41










  • i want to sort the files/folders like dolphin (kde file manager) sorts them. all folder first, the all files. folders with underscore at top of al folders, the same with files with underscore at the beginning.
    – fmeier
    Jan 1 at 17:23














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I use an underscore at the beginning of file and folder names to mark them as something "special". But this sorting doesn't work for the most programs under Linux. I tried LC_COLLATE=C ls and other locales but the results are something strange. Let's say I have these folders:



2
A
_F
G
K
S
x4


This is the sort order of ls. When I use LC_COLLATE=C ls, I have this:



2
A
G
K
S
_F
x4


I have this under Xubuntu 18.04 using the xfce-terminal-emulator on 2 machines.



What is wrong here?










share|improve this question















I use an underscore at the beginning of file and folder names to mark them as something "special". But this sorting doesn't work for the most programs under Linux. I tried LC_COLLATE=C ls and other locales but the results are something strange. Let's say I have these folders:



2
A
_F
G
K
S
x4


This is the sort order of ls. When I use LC_COLLATE=C ls, I have this:



2
A
G
K
S
_F
x4


I have this under Xubuntu 18.04 using the xfce-terminal-emulator on 2 machines.



What is wrong here?







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  • 3




    How do you expect them to sort?
    – George Udosen
    Dec 22 '18 at 7:30






  • 1




    @GeorgeUdosen I think OP wants the special characters to placed first/ higher in list.
    – Sourav Ghosh
    Dec 22 '18 at 7:32








  • 1




    Even at that we are still guessing as OPs results could be any thing!
    – George Udosen
    Dec 22 '18 at 7:41










  • i want to sort the files/folders like dolphin (kde file manager) sorts them. all folder first, the all files. folders with underscore at top of al folders, the same with files with underscore at the beginning.
    – fmeier
    Jan 1 at 17:23














  • 3




    How do you expect them to sort?
    – George Udosen
    Dec 22 '18 at 7:30






  • 1




    @GeorgeUdosen I think OP wants the special characters to placed first/ higher in list.
    – Sourav Ghosh
    Dec 22 '18 at 7:32








  • 1




    Even at that we are still guessing as OPs results could be any thing!
    – George Udosen
    Dec 22 '18 at 7:41










  • i want to sort the files/folders like dolphin (kde file manager) sorts them. all folder first, the all files. folders with underscore at top of al folders, the same with files with underscore at the beginning.
    – fmeier
    Jan 1 at 17:23








3




3




How do you expect them to sort?
– George Udosen
Dec 22 '18 at 7:30




How do you expect them to sort?
– George Udosen
Dec 22 '18 at 7:30




1




1




@GeorgeUdosen I think OP wants the special characters to placed first/ higher in list.
– Sourav Ghosh
Dec 22 '18 at 7:32






@GeorgeUdosen I think OP wants the special characters to placed first/ higher in list.
– Sourav Ghosh
Dec 22 '18 at 7:32






1




1




Even at that we are still guessing as OPs results could be any thing!
– George Udosen
Dec 22 '18 at 7:41




Even at that we are still guessing as OPs results could be any thing!
– George Udosen
Dec 22 '18 at 7:41












i want to sort the files/folders like dolphin (kde file manager) sorts them. all folder first, the all files. folders with underscore at top of al folders, the same with files with underscore at the beginning.
– fmeier
Jan 1 at 17:23




i want to sort the files/folders like dolphin (kde file manager) sorts them. all folder first, the all files. folders with underscore at top of al folders, the same with files with underscore at the beginning.
– fmeier
Jan 1 at 17:23










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You can sort files with leading underscores to the end with --sort=version or -v which is equivalent to sort -V (natural version sort) (which is most useful for sorting files with numbers).



$ ls -v1
2
A
G
K
S
x4
_F


Details on version sorting are in info ls... note that:



‘LC_COLLATE’ is ignored, which means ‘ls -v’ and ‘sort -V’ will
sort non-numeric prefixes as if the ‘LC_COLLATE’ locale category
was set to ‘C’.


Perhaps this is adequate for your purpose.






share|improve this answer

















  • 1




    Just to mention that Dolphin (Kubuntu's file manager) sorts them, from top to bottom, like this: _F, 2, A, G, K, S, x4. It's using something called "Natural" sorting. I have a question on it here: askubuntu.com/questions/1040499/…
    – DK Bose
    Dec 22 '18 at 9:57






  • 1




    Cleaned up my answer.
    – DK Bose
    Dec 23 '18 at 6:52



















1














@Zanna's answer provides one solution. Another solution is this:



$ ls -lfr -1 _* [!_]*
_F
2
A
G
K
S
x4





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  • This shows also all sub folders and files that are stored in the folder.
    – fmeier
    Jan 1 at 17:24











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You can sort files with leading underscores to the end with --sort=version or -v which is equivalent to sort -V (natural version sort) (which is most useful for sorting files with numbers).



$ ls -v1
2
A
G
K
S
x4
_F


Details on version sorting are in info ls... note that:



‘LC_COLLATE’ is ignored, which means ‘ls -v’ and ‘sort -V’ will
sort non-numeric prefixes as if the ‘LC_COLLATE’ locale category
was set to ‘C’.


Perhaps this is adequate for your purpose.






share|improve this answer

















  • 1




    Just to mention that Dolphin (Kubuntu's file manager) sorts them, from top to bottom, like this: _F, 2, A, G, K, S, x4. It's using something called "Natural" sorting. I have a question on it here: askubuntu.com/questions/1040499/…
    – DK Bose
    Dec 22 '18 at 9:57






  • 1




    Cleaned up my answer.
    – DK Bose
    Dec 23 '18 at 6:52
















1














You can sort files with leading underscores to the end with --sort=version or -v which is equivalent to sort -V (natural version sort) (which is most useful for sorting files with numbers).



$ ls -v1
2
A
G
K
S
x4
_F


Details on version sorting are in info ls... note that:



‘LC_COLLATE’ is ignored, which means ‘ls -v’ and ‘sort -V’ will
sort non-numeric prefixes as if the ‘LC_COLLATE’ locale category
was set to ‘C’.


Perhaps this is adequate for your purpose.






share|improve this answer

















  • 1




    Just to mention that Dolphin (Kubuntu's file manager) sorts them, from top to bottom, like this: _F, 2, A, G, K, S, x4. It's using something called "Natural" sorting. I have a question on it here: askubuntu.com/questions/1040499/…
    – DK Bose
    Dec 22 '18 at 9:57






  • 1




    Cleaned up my answer.
    – DK Bose
    Dec 23 '18 at 6:52














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1






You can sort files with leading underscores to the end with --sort=version or -v which is equivalent to sort -V (natural version sort) (which is most useful for sorting files with numbers).



$ ls -v1
2
A
G
K
S
x4
_F


Details on version sorting are in info ls... note that:



‘LC_COLLATE’ is ignored, which means ‘ls -v’ and ‘sort -V’ will
sort non-numeric prefixes as if the ‘LC_COLLATE’ locale category
was set to ‘C’.


Perhaps this is adequate for your purpose.






share|improve this answer












You can sort files with leading underscores to the end with --sort=version or -v which is equivalent to sort -V (natural version sort) (which is most useful for sorting files with numbers).



$ ls -v1
2
A
G
K
S
x4
_F


Details on version sorting are in info ls... note that:



‘LC_COLLATE’ is ignored, which means ‘ls -v’ and ‘sort -V’ will
sort non-numeric prefixes as if the ‘LC_COLLATE’ locale category
was set to ‘C’.


Perhaps this is adequate for your purpose.







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  • 1




    Just to mention that Dolphin (Kubuntu's file manager) sorts them, from top to bottom, like this: _F, 2, A, G, K, S, x4. It's using something called "Natural" sorting. I have a question on it here: askubuntu.com/questions/1040499/…
    – DK Bose
    Dec 22 '18 at 9:57






  • 1




    Cleaned up my answer.
    – DK Bose
    Dec 23 '18 at 6:52














  • 1




    Just to mention that Dolphin (Kubuntu's file manager) sorts them, from top to bottom, like this: _F, 2, A, G, K, S, x4. It's using something called "Natural" sorting. I have a question on it here: askubuntu.com/questions/1040499/…
    – DK Bose
    Dec 22 '18 at 9:57






  • 1




    Cleaned up my answer.
    – DK Bose
    Dec 23 '18 at 6:52








1




1




Just to mention that Dolphin (Kubuntu's file manager) sorts them, from top to bottom, like this: _F, 2, A, G, K, S, x4. It's using something called "Natural" sorting. I have a question on it here: askubuntu.com/questions/1040499/…
– DK Bose
Dec 22 '18 at 9:57




Just to mention that Dolphin (Kubuntu's file manager) sorts them, from top to bottom, like this: _F, 2, A, G, K, S, x4. It's using something called "Natural" sorting. I have a question on it here: askubuntu.com/questions/1040499/…
– DK Bose
Dec 22 '18 at 9:57




1




1




Cleaned up my answer.
– DK Bose
Dec 23 '18 at 6:52




Cleaned up my answer.
– DK Bose
Dec 23 '18 at 6:52













1














@Zanna's answer provides one solution. Another solution is this:



$ ls -lfr -1 _* [!_]*
_F
2
A
G
K
S
x4





share|improve this answer























  • This shows also all sub folders and files that are stored in the folder.
    – fmeier
    Jan 1 at 17:24
















1














@Zanna's answer provides one solution. Another solution is this:



$ ls -lfr -1 _* [!_]*
_F
2
A
G
K
S
x4





share|improve this answer























  • This shows also all sub folders and files that are stored in the folder.
    – fmeier
    Jan 1 at 17:24














1












1








1






@Zanna's answer provides one solution. Another solution is this:



$ ls -lfr -1 _* [!_]*
_F
2
A
G
K
S
x4





share|improve this answer














@Zanna's answer provides one solution. Another solution is this:



$ ls -lfr -1 _* [!_]*
_F
2
A
G
K
S
x4






share|improve this answer














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    – fmeier
    Jan 1 at 17:24


















  • This shows also all sub folders and files that are stored in the folder.
    – fmeier
    Jan 1 at 17:24
















This shows also all sub folders and files that are stored in the folder.
– fmeier
Jan 1 at 17:24




This shows also all sub folders and files that are stored in the folder.
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