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I recently attempted to install PostgreSQL on a Windows XP SP3 machine using the EnterpriseDB installer. The installation was not successful, probably because I did not remember to turn off my antivirus (MS Security Essentials). So I ran the uninstaller that was installed by the installer, removed a leftover object in my user account, turned off the antivirus and reset a firewall exception for the port and the process, and re-downloaded and re-ran the installer.



After this I have not been able to start the server using any of the standard methods. A helpful person on the EnterpriseDB Installation forum looked over the installation log for my second installation attempt and said that the installer was running in “upgrade mode”, apparently because the installer found some trace of the previous installation not removed by the uninstaller. See posting, here, for his comments and the complete installation log: http://forums.enterprisedb.com/posts/list/3879.page



What is the likely cause of a failure to completely uninstall such as this one? How can I either: 1) assure that the next time I run the uninstaller it runs to completion, or 2) check whether it has removed everything and remove any leftovers manually?



I think to do the latter I would need a complete list of all the places that the installer touches.



I would be grateful for any help or suggestions that anyone could offer.



Sincerely, andrewH










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  • Do you need something that EnterpriseDB is offering that's not available in the free PostgresSQL?

    – jdigital
    Feb 15 '14 at 6:03











  • @jdigital EnterpriseDB publish installers for regular PostgreSQL on Windows, too. They're currently the main distribution channel, since Command Prompt stopped releasing their MSIs.

    – Craig Ringer
    Feb 15 '14 at 6:34













  • @CraigRinger You can do a "copy-install" of PostgresSQL, so you don't need to run an installer. However, until you pointed this out, I didn't realize that the zip for that also comes from the folks at EnterpriseDB. It's marked as an option for advanced users. This might help work around an installer problem, at least if you're happy with a simple configuration.

    – jdigital
    Feb 15 '14 at 6:40













  • @jdigital Yeah, but it shouldn't really be necessary. It looks like the user has mangled their installation by hand-deleting chunks of it.

    – Craig Ringer
    Feb 15 '14 at 6:44











  • Which version did you try to install, exactly?

    – and31415
    Feb 15 '14 at 17:42
















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I recently attempted to install PostgreSQL on a Windows XP SP3 machine using the EnterpriseDB installer. The installation was not successful, probably because I did not remember to turn off my antivirus (MS Security Essentials). So I ran the uninstaller that was installed by the installer, removed a leftover object in my user account, turned off the antivirus and reset a firewall exception for the port and the process, and re-downloaded and re-ran the installer.



After this I have not been able to start the server using any of the standard methods. A helpful person on the EnterpriseDB Installation forum looked over the installation log for my second installation attempt and said that the installer was running in “upgrade mode”, apparently because the installer found some trace of the previous installation not removed by the uninstaller. See posting, here, for his comments and the complete installation log: http://forums.enterprisedb.com/posts/list/3879.page



What is the likely cause of a failure to completely uninstall such as this one? How can I either: 1) assure that the next time I run the uninstaller it runs to completion, or 2) check whether it has removed everything and remove any leftovers manually?



I think to do the latter I would need a complete list of all the places that the installer touches.



I would be grateful for any help or suggestions that anyone could offer.



Sincerely, andrewH










share|improve this question























  • Do you need something that EnterpriseDB is offering that's not available in the free PostgresSQL?

    – jdigital
    Feb 15 '14 at 6:03











  • @jdigital EnterpriseDB publish installers for regular PostgreSQL on Windows, too. They're currently the main distribution channel, since Command Prompt stopped releasing their MSIs.

    – Craig Ringer
    Feb 15 '14 at 6:34













  • @CraigRinger You can do a "copy-install" of PostgresSQL, so you don't need to run an installer. However, until you pointed this out, I didn't realize that the zip for that also comes from the folks at EnterpriseDB. It's marked as an option for advanced users. This might help work around an installer problem, at least if you're happy with a simple configuration.

    – jdigital
    Feb 15 '14 at 6:40













  • @jdigital Yeah, but it shouldn't really be necessary. It looks like the user has mangled their installation by hand-deleting chunks of it.

    – Craig Ringer
    Feb 15 '14 at 6:44











  • Which version did you try to install, exactly?

    – and31415
    Feb 15 '14 at 17:42














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I recently attempted to install PostgreSQL on a Windows XP SP3 machine using the EnterpriseDB installer. The installation was not successful, probably because I did not remember to turn off my antivirus (MS Security Essentials). So I ran the uninstaller that was installed by the installer, removed a leftover object in my user account, turned off the antivirus and reset a firewall exception for the port and the process, and re-downloaded and re-ran the installer.



After this I have not been able to start the server using any of the standard methods. A helpful person on the EnterpriseDB Installation forum looked over the installation log for my second installation attempt and said that the installer was running in “upgrade mode”, apparently because the installer found some trace of the previous installation not removed by the uninstaller. See posting, here, for his comments and the complete installation log: http://forums.enterprisedb.com/posts/list/3879.page



What is the likely cause of a failure to completely uninstall such as this one? How can I either: 1) assure that the next time I run the uninstaller it runs to completion, or 2) check whether it has removed everything and remove any leftovers manually?



I think to do the latter I would need a complete list of all the places that the installer touches.



I would be grateful for any help or suggestions that anyone could offer.



Sincerely, andrewH










share|improve this question














I recently attempted to install PostgreSQL on a Windows XP SP3 machine using the EnterpriseDB installer. The installation was not successful, probably because I did not remember to turn off my antivirus (MS Security Essentials). So I ran the uninstaller that was installed by the installer, removed a leftover object in my user account, turned off the antivirus and reset a firewall exception for the port and the process, and re-downloaded and re-ran the installer.



After this I have not been able to start the server using any of the standard methods. A helpful person on the EnterpriseDB Installation forum looked over the installation log for my second installation attempt and said that the installer was running in “upgrade mode”, apparently because the installer found some trace of the previous installation not removed by the uninstaller. See posting, here, for his comments and the complete installation log: http://forums.enterprisedb.com/posts/list/3879.page



What is the likely cause of a failure to completely uninstall such as this one? How can I either: 1) assure that the next time I run the uninstaller it runs to completion, or 2) check whether it has removed everything and remove any leftovers manually?



I think to do the latter I would need a complete list of all the places that the installer touches.



I would be grateful for any help or suggestions that anyone could offer.



Sincerely, andrewH







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  • Do you need something that EnterpriseDB is offering that's not available in the free PostgresSQL?

    – jdigital
    Feb 15 '14 at 6:03











  • @jdigital EnterpriseDB publish installers for regular PostgreSQL on Windows, too. They're currently the main distribution channel, since Command Prompt stopped releasing their MSIs.

    – Craig Ringer
    Feb 15 '14 at 6:34













  • @CraigRinger You can do a "copy-install" of PostgresSQL, so you don't need to run an installer. However, until you pointed this out, I didn't realize that the zip for that also comes from the folks at EnterpriseDB. It's marked as an option for advanced users. This might help work around an installer problem, at least if you're happy with a simple configuration.

    – jdigital
    Feb 15 '14 at 6:40













  • @jdigital Yeah, but it shouldn't really be necessary. It looks like the user has mangled their installation by hand-deleting chunks of it.

    – Craig Ringer
    Feb 15 '14 at 6:44











  • Which version did you try to install, exactly?

    – and31415
    Feb 15 '14 at 17:42



















  • Do you need something that EnterpriseDB is offering that's not available in the free PostgresSQL?

    – jdigital
    Feb 15 '14 at 6:03











  • @jdigital EnterpriseDB publish installers for regular PostgreSQL on Windows, too. They're currently the main distribution channel, since Command Prompt stopped releasing their MSIs.

    – Craig Ringer
    Feb 15 '14 at 6:34













  • @CraigRinger You can do a "copy-install" of PostgresSQL, so you don't need to run an installer. However, until you pointed this out, I didn't realize that the zip for that also comes from the folks at EnterpriseDB. It's marked as an option for advanced users. This might help work around an installer problem, at least if you're happy with a simple configuration.

    – jdigital
    Feb 15 '14 at 6:40













  • @jdigital Yeah, but it shouldn't really be necessary. It looks like the user has mangled their installation by hand-deleting chunks of it.

    – Craig Ringer
    Feb 15 '14 at 6:44











  • Which version did you try to install, exactly?

    – and31415
    Feb 15 '14 at 17:42

















Do you need something that EnterpriseDB is offering that's not available in the free PostgresSQL?

– jdigital
Feb 15 '14 at 6:03





Do you need something that EnterpriseDB is offering that's not available in the free PostgresSQL?

– jdigital
Feb 15 '14 at 6:03













@jdigital EnterpriseDB publish installers for regular PostgreSQL on Windows, too. They're currently the main distribution channel, since Command Prompt stopped releasing their MSIs.

– Craig Ringer
Feb 15 '14 at 6:34







@jdigital EnterpriseDB publish installers for regular PostgreSQL on Windows, too. They're currently the main distribution channel, since Command Prompt stopped releasing their MSIs.

– Craig Ringer
Feb 15 '14 at 6:34















@CraigRinger You can do a "copy-install" of PostgresSQL, so you don't need to run an installer. However, until you pointed this out, I didn't realize that the zip for that also comes from the folks at EnterpriseDB. It's marked as an option for advanced users. This might help work around an installer problem, at least if you're happy with a simple configuration.

– jdigital
Feb 15 '14 at 6:40







@CraigRinger You can do a "copy-install" of PostgresSQL, so you don't need to run an installer. However, until you pointed this out, I didn't realize that the zip for that also comes from the folks at EnterpriseDB. It's marked as an option for advanced users. This might help work around an installer problem, at least if you're happy with a simple configuration.

– jdigital
Feb 15 '14 at 6:40















@jdigital Yeah, but it shouldn't really be necessary. It looks like the user has mangled their installation by hand-deleting chunks of it.

– Craig Ringer
Feb 15 '14 at 6:44





@jdigital Yeah, but it shouldn't really be necessary. It looks like the user has mangled their installation by hand-deleting chunks of it.

– Craig Ringer
Feb 15 '14 at 6:44













Which version did you try to install, exactly?

– and31415
Feb 15 '14 at 17:42





Which version did you try to install, exactly?

– and31415
Feb 15 '14 at 17:42










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Take a look at the Revo Uninstaller. When uninstalling a program, it attempts to detect files and registry entries that were left behind, and provides you an opportunity to remove them. If you're about to install a program, you can turn on its tracker mode, which will track the installation and allow it to do a more thorough job.



That said, you should always double check what it offers to remove, because it's possible that it may incorrectly identify items for removal.



There's a free version of the program but I think the tracker is part of the paid version. You can check the page on their site that compares the two.






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  • Thanks @jdigital. Given that I already have this unsuccessful instalation-uninstalation-reinstalation installed, would you trust this program to find everything without having recorded the installation? I am not asking whether I need to keep it from removing too much - I understand your caution. I am asking if I can count on it to find everything so that I don't just stay in this loop of unsuccess.

    – andrewH
    Feb 17 '14 at 3:32











  • No guarantees, you'll just have to try it.

    – jdigital
    Feb 17 '14 at 18:34



















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If you've mangled an install by hand-deleting things, then run an uninstaller, the uninstaller probably failed to do anything. Windows will generally notice that the program directory containing the uninstaller is missing and simply remove the program entries from the installed programs list in the registry.



This doesn't remove anything else the program might have had, like Windows services, user accounts, registry entries, etc.



Your first try should be to run the installer again, and when it completes, run the uninstaller. Hopefully that'll give it a chance to clean up the leftover remenants of the first install, after which a subsequent install may actually work correctly.



If not, you might need to (carefully) remove the remaining fragments of the hand-deleted install yourself, including the service, installation registry entries, etc etc. If you do this wrong you can make everything worse - make sure you have good backups before attempting a manual cleanup of a busted install.






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  • Um, actually, I ran the uninstaller before I hand-deleted anything. I think I did mangle the original installation, but by leaving the antivirus turned on, not by hand deletion. I only deleted remnants I found after the uninstall. But I did try and start the service a bunch of different ways, some probably inappropriate, before that.

    – andrewH
    Feb 17 '14 at 3:17













  • When you suggest that I run the installer again, do you mean without first running the uninstaller again? Because what I have now, I believe, is an upgrade mode installation on top of an incomplete uninstall of my original botched installation. Will the installer not just repeat what it did last time?

    – andrewH
    Feb 17 '14 at 3:25











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Take a look at the Revo Uninstaller. When uninstalling a program, it attempts to detect files and registry entries that were left behind, and provides you an opportunity to remove them. If you're about to install a program, you can turn on its tracker mode, which will track the installation and allow it to do a more thorough job.



That said, you should always double check what it offers to remove, because it's possible that it may incorrectly identify items for removal.



There's a free version of the program but I think the tracker is part of the paid version. You can check the page on their site that compares the two.






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  • Thanks @jdigital. Given that I already have this unsuccessful instalation-uninstalation-reinstalation installed, would you trust this program to find everything without having recorded the installation? I am not asking whether I need to keep it from removing too much - I understand your caution. I am asking if I can count on it to find everything so that I don't just stay in this loop of unsuccess.

    – andrewH
    Feb 17 '14 at 3:32











  • No guarantees, you'll just have to try it.

    – jdigital
    Feb 17 '14 at 18:34
















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Take a look at the Revo Uninstaller. When uninstalling a program, it attempts to detect files and registry entries that were left behind, and provides you an opportunity to remove them. If you're about to install a program, you can turn on its tracker mode, which will track the installation and allow it to do a more thorough job.



That said, you should always double check what it offers to remove, because it's possible that it may incorrectly identify items for removal.



There's a free version of the program but I think the tracker is part of the paid version. You can check the page on their site that compares the two.






share|improve this answer
























  • Thanks @jdigital. Given that I already have this unsuccessful instalation-uninstalation-reinstalation installed, would you trust this program to find everything without having recorded the installation? I am not asking whether I need to keep it from removing too much - I understand your caution. I am asking if I can count on it to find everything so that I don't just stay in this loop of unsuccess.

    – andrewH
    Feb 17 '14 at 3:32











  • No guarantees, you'll just have to try it.

    – jdigital
    Feb 17 '14 at 18:34














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Take a look at the Revo Uninstaller. When uninstalling a program, it attempts to detect files and registry entries that were left behind, and provides you an opportunity to remove them. If you're about to install a program, you can turn on its tracker mode, which will track the installation and allow it to do a more thorough job.



That said, you should always double check what it offers to remove, because it's possible that it may incorrectly identify items for removal.



There's a free version of the program but I think the tracker is part of the paid version. You can check the page on their site that compares the two.






share|improve this answer













Take a look at the Revo Uninstaller. When uninstalling a program, it attempts to detect files and registry entries that were left behind, and provides you an opportunity to remove them. If you're about to install a program, you can turn on its tracker mode, which will track the installation and allow it to do a more thorough job.



That said, you should always double check what it offers to remove, because it's possible that it may incorrectly identify items for removal.



There's a free version of the program but I think the tracker is part of the paid version. You can check the page on their site that compares the two.







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  • Thanks @jdigital. Given that I already have this unsuccessful instalation-uninstalation-reinstalation installed, would you trust this program to find everything without having recorded the installation? I am not asking whether I need to keep it from removing too much - I understand your caution. I am asking if I can count on it to find everything so that I don't just stay in this loop of unsuccess.

    – andrewH
    Feb 17 '14 at 3:32











  • No guarantees, you'll just have to try it.

    – jdigital
    Feb 17 '14 at 18:34



















  • Thanks @jdigital. Given that I already have this unsuccessful instalation-uninstalation-reinstalation installed, would you trust this program to find everything without having recorded the installation? I am not asking whether I need to keep it from removing too much - I understand your caution. I am asking if I can count on it to find everything so that I don't just stay in this loop of unsuccess.

    – andrewH
    Feb 17 '14 at 3:32











  • No guarantees, you'll just have to try it.

    – jdigital
    Feb 17 '14 at 18:34

















Thanks @jdigital. Given that I already have this unsuccessful instalation-uninstalation-reinstalation installed, would you trust this program to find everything without having recorded the installation? I am not asking whether I need to keep it from removing too much - I understand your caution. I am asking if I can count on it to find everything so that I don't just stay in this loop of unsuccess.

– andrewH
Feb 17 '14 at 3:32





Thanks @jdigital. Given that I already have this unsuccessful instalation-uninstalation-reinstalation installed, would you trust this program to find everything without having recorded the installation? I am not asking whether I need to keep it from removing too much - I understand your caution. I am asking if I can count on it to find everything so that I don't just stay in this loop of unsuccess.

– andrewH
Feb 17 '14 at 3:32













No guarantees, you'll just have to try it.

– jdigital
Feb 17 '14 at 18:34





No guarantees, you'll just have to try it.

– jdigital
Feb 17 '14 at 18:34













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If you've mangled an install by hand-deleting things, then run an uninstaller, the uninstaller probably failed to do anything. Windows will generally notice that the program directory containing the uninstaller is missing and simply remove the program entries from the installed programs list in the registry.



This doesn't remove anything else the program might have had, like Windows services, user accounts, registry entries, etc.



Your first try should be to run the installer again, and when it completes, run the uninstaller. Hopefully that'll give it a chance to clean up the leftover remenants of the first install, after which a subsequent install may actually work correctly.



If not, you might need to (carefully) remove the remaining fragments of the hand-deleted install yourself, including the service, installation registry entries, etc etc. If you do this wrong you can make everything worse - make sure you have good backups before attempting a manual cleanup of a busted install.






share|improve this answer
























  • Um, actually, I ran the uninstaller before I hand-deleted anything. I think I did mangle the original installation, but by leaving the antivirus turned on, not by hand deletion. I only deleted remnants I found after the uninstall. But I did try and start the service a bunch of different ways, some probably inappropriate, before that.

    – andrewH
    Feb 17 '14 at 3:17













  • When you suggest that I run the installer again, do you mean without first running the uninstaller again? Because what I have now, I believe, is an upgrade mode installation on top of an incomplete uninstall of my original botched installation. Will the installer not just repeat what it did last time?

    – andrewH
    Feb 17 '14 at 3:25
















0














If you've mangled an install by hand-deleting things, then run an uninstaller, the uninstaller probably failed to do anything. Windows will generally notice that the program directory containing the uninstaller is missing and simply remove the program entries from the installed programs list in the registry.



This doesn't remove anything else the program might have had, like Windows services, user accounts, registry entries, etc.



Your first try should be to run the installer again, and when it completes, run the uninstaller. Hopefully that'll give it a chance to clean up the leftover remenants of the first install, after which a subsequent install may actually work correctly.



If not, you might need to (carefully) remove the remaining fragments of the hand-deleted install yourself, including the service, installation registry entries, etc etc. If you do this wrong you can make everything worse - make sure you have good backups before attempting a manual cleanup of a busted install.






share|improve this answer
























  • Um, actually, I ran the uninstaller before I hand-deleted anything. I think I did mangle the original installation, but by leaving the antivirus turned on, not by hand deletion. I only deleted remnants I found after the uninstall. But I did try and start the service a bunch of different ways, some probably inappropriate, before that.

    – andrewH
    Feb 17 '14 at 3:17













  • When you suggest that I run the installer again, do you mean without first running the uninstaller again? Because what I have now, I believe, is an upgrade mode installation on top of an incomplete uninstall of my original botched installation. Will the installer not just repeat what it did last time?

    – andrewH
    Feb 17 '14 at 3:25














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If you've mangled an install by hand-deleting things, then run an uninstaller, the uninstaller probably failed to do anything. Windows will generally notice that the program directory containing the uninstaller is missing and simply remove the program entries from the installed programs list in the registry.



This doesn't remove anything else the program might have had, like Windows services, user accounts, registry entries, etc.



Your first try should be to run the installer again, and when it completes, run the uninstaller. Hopefully that'll give it a chance to clean up the leftover remenants of the first install, after which a subsequent install may actually work correctly.



If not, you might need to (carefully) remove the remaining fragments of the hand-deleted install yourself, including the service, installation registry entries, etc etc. If you do this wrong you can make everything worse - make sure you have good backups before attempting a manual cleanup of a busted install.






share|improve this answer













If you've mangled an install by hand-deleting things, then run an uninstaller, the uninstaller probably failed to do anything. Windows will generally notice that the program directory containing the uninstaller is missing and simply remove the program entries from the installed programs list in the registry.



This doesn't remove anything else the program might have had, like Windows services, user accounts, registry entries, etc.



Your first try should be to run the installer again, and when it completes, run the uninstaller. Hopefully that'll give it a chance to clean up the leftover remenants of the first install, after which a subsequent install may actually work correctly.



If not, you might need to (carefully) remove the remaining fragments of the hand-deleted install yourself, including the service, installation registry entries, etc etc. If you do this wrong you can make everything worse - make sure you have good backups before attempting a manual cleanup of a busted install.







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  • Um, actually, I ran the uninstaller before I hand-deleted anything. I think I did mangle the original installation, but by leaving the antivirus turned on, not by hand deletion. I only deleted remnants I found after the uninstall. But I did try and start the service a bunch of different ways, some probably inappropriate, before that.

    – andrewH
    Feb 17 '14 at 3:17













  • When you suggest that I run the installer again, do you mean without first running the uninstaller again? Because what I have now, I believe, is an upgrade mode installation on top of an incomplete uninstall of my original botched installation. Will the installer not just repeat what it did last time?

    – andrewH
    Feb 17 '14 at 3:25



















  • Um, actually, I ran the uninstaller before I hand-deleted anything. I think I did mangle the original installation, but by leaving the antivirus turned on, not by hand deletion. I only deleted remnants I found after the uninstall. But I did try and start the service a bunch of different ways, some probably inappropriate, before that.

    – andrewH
    Feb 17 '14 at 3:17













  • When you suggest that I run the installer again, do you mean without first running the uninstaller again? Because what I have now, I believe, is an upgrade mode installation on top of an incomplete uninstall of my original botched installation. Will the installer not just repeat what it did last time?

    – andrewH
    Feb 17 '14 at 3:25

















Um, actually, I ran the uninstaller before I hand-deleted anything. I think I did mangle the original installation, but by leaving the antivirus turned on, not by hand deletion. I only deleted remnants I found after the uninstall. But I did try and start the service a bunch of different ways, some probably inappropriate, before that.

– andrewH
Feb 17 '14 at 3:17







Um, actually, I ran the uninstaller before I hand-deleted anything. I think I did mangle the original installation, but by leaving the antivirus turned on, not by hand deletion. I only deleted remnants I found after the uninstall. But I did try and start the service a bunch of different ways, some probably inappropriate, before that.

– andrewH
Feb 17 '14 at 3:17















When you suggest that I run the installer again, do you mean without first running the uninstaller again? Because what I have now, I believe, is an upgrade mode installation on top of an incomplete uninstall of my original botched installation. Will the installer not just repeat what it did last time?

– andrewH
Feb 17 '14 at 3:25





When you suggest that I run the installer again, do you mean without first running the uninstaller again? Because what I have now, I believe, is an upgrade mode installation on top of an incomplete uninstall of my original botched installation. Will the installer not just repeat what it did last time?

– andrewH
Feb 17 '14 at 3:25


















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