Do creatures with a speed 0ft., fly 30ft. (hover) ever touch the ground?
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As an example, I'm considering a Demilich.
Will my pc ever encounter a Demilich on the ground (for example: run up and surprise one that is sleeping on the ground)?
In general though, do creatures with a speed 0ft., fly 30ft. (hover) ever touch the ground?
dnd-5e monsters movement
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As an example, I'm considering a Demilich.
Will my pc ever encounter a Demilich on the ground (for example: run up and surprise one that is sleeping on the ground)?
In general though, do creatures with a speed 0ft., fly 30ft. (hover) ever touch the ground?
dnd-5e monsters movement
edited 2 hours ago
Rubiksmoose
59.9k10287442
asked 3 hours ago
Greg0141Greg0141
29013
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@NautArch: for my future reference, how did you manage to format the stat block that I had up? That's the format I was looking to put up but it did not turn out that way
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– Greg0141
2 hours ago
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I put line breaks between each line and started each line with >. If you look at the edit history, you can see what I did.
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– NautArch
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Out of curiosity, why does a demilich touching the ground matter to your character? Is this part of some plan or strategy? Or just curiosity? Also, you are asking as a player/PC correct?
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– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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@Rubiksmoose: was wondering if someone would ask; this is purely academic and for the future (may become a part of a plan). I'm so new to this and my questions will often reflect that. This could be either for dm creation purposes or for the pc; all learning for me at this point.
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– Greg0141
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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As an example, I'm considering a Demilich.
Will my pc ever encounter a Demilich on the ground (for example: run up and surprise one that is sleeping on the ground)?
In general though, do creatures with a speed 0ft., fly 30ft. (hover) ever touch the ground?
dnd-5e monsters movement
edited 2 hours ago
Rubiksmoose
59.9k10287442
asked 3 hours ago
Greg0141Greg0141
29013
$endgroup$
As an example, I'm considering a Demilich.
Will my pc ever encounter a Demilich on the ground (for example: run up and surprise one that is sleeping on the ground)?
In general though, do creatures with a speed 0ft., fly 30ft. (hover) ever touch the ground?
dnd-5e monsters movement
dnd-5e monsters movement
edited 2 hours ago
Rubiksmoose
59.9k10287442
asked 3 hours ago
Greg0141Greg0141
29013
edited 2 hours ago
Rubiksmoose
59.9k10287442
asked 3 hours ago
Greg0141Greg0141
29013
edited 2 hours ago
Rubiksmoose
59.9k10287442
edited 2 hours ago
Rubiksmoose
59.9k10287442
edited 2 hours ago
Rubiksmoose
59.9k10287442
59.9k10287442
asked 3 hours ago
Greg0141Greg0141
29013
asked 3 hours ago
Greg0141Greg0141
29013
asked 3 hours ago
Greg0141Greg0141
29013
29013
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@NautArch: for my future reference, how did you manage to format the stat block that I had up? That's the format I was looking to put up but it did not turn out that way
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– Greg0141
2 hours ago
2
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I put line breaks between each line and started each line with >. If you look at the edit history, you can see what I did.
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– NautArch
2 hours ago
1
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Out of curiosity, why does a demilich touching the ground matter to your character? Is this part of some plan or strategy? Or just curiosity? Also, you are asking as a player/PC correct?
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– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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@Rubiksmoose: was wondering if someone would ask; this is purely academic and for the future (may become a part of a plan). I'm so new to this and my questions will often reflect that. This could be either for dm creation purposes or for the pc; all learning for me at this point.
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– Greg0141
2 hours ago
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@NautArch: for my future reference, how did you manage to format the stat block that I had up? That's the format I was looking to put up but it did not turn out that way
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– Greg0141
2 hours ago
2
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I put line breaks between each line and started each line with >. If you look at the edit history, you can see what I did.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
2 hours ago
1
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Out of curiosity, why does a demilich touching the ground matter to your character? Is this part of some plan or strategy? Or just curiosity? Also, you are asking as a player/PC correct?
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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@Rubiksmoose: was wondering if someone would ask; this is purely academic and for the future (may become a part of a plan). I'm so new to this and my questions will often reflect that. This could be either for dm creation purposes or for the pc; all learning for me at this point.
$endgroup$
– Greg0141
2 hours ago
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@NautArch: for my future reference, how did you manage to format the stat block that I had up? That's the format I was looking to put up but it did not turn out that way
$endgroup$
– Greg0141
2 hours ago
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@NautArch: for my future reference, how did you manage to format the stat block that I had up? That's the format I was looking to put up but it did not turn out that way
$endgroup$
– Greg0141
2 hours ago
2
2
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I put line breaks between each line and started each line with >. If you look at the edit history, you can see what I did.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
2 hours ago
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I put line breaks between each line and started each line with >. If you look at the edit history, you can see what I did.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
2 hours ago
1
1
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Out of curiosity, why does a demilich touching the ground matter to your character? Is this part of some plan or strategy? Or just curiosity? Also, you are asking as a player/PC correct?
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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Out of curiosity, why does a demilich touching the ground matter to your character? Is this part of some plan or strategy? Or just curiosity? Also, you are asking as a player/PC correct?
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Rubiksmoose: was wondering if someone would ask; this is purely academic and for the future (may become a part of a plan). I'm so new to this and my questions will often reflect that. This could be either for dm creation purposes or for the pc; all learning for me at this point.
$endgroup$
– Greg0141
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Rubiksmoose: was wondering if someone would ask; this is purely academic and for the future (may become a part of a plan). I'm so new to this and my questions will often reflect that. This could be either for dm creation purposes or for the pc; all learning for me at this point.
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– Greg0141
2 hours ago
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Speeds don’t determine this
That something has only a fly-hover speed and zero ground speed just means that it can’t move on the ground. It doesn’t say anything about whether it can or can’t stand still on the ground.
Speeds just aren’t there to give information on what media the creature is allowed to touch. If something is incapable of landing and never rests on the ground, that’s more the sort of detail that would appear in a creature’s detailed description of its behaviour and habits.
The demilich in particular lacks this kind of detail saying it only flies. Its description instead implies (but only implies) that it sometimes rests on the ground, when it says
if it is disturbed, these remains rise into the air and assume a wraithlike form.
Its history in D&D more explicitly includes it laying on the ground, including in one of its earliest illustrations in the AD&D Monster Manual II (and its accompanying description):
A classic demilich setup (as in the adventure
Tomb of Horrors
) is to have it laying on the ground until disturbed. To naive adventurers, it looks like a jeweled skull: treasure! Then it “wakes up” (it doesn’t actually sleep, though) and attacks, taking the poor adventurers off guard.
answered 1 hour ago
SevenSidedDie♦SevenSidedDie
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Greatly appreciate the “classic demilich setup “ and spoiler you’ve provided. If I may ask here, how did you manage that blind effect for the spoiler?
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– Greg0141
56 mins ago
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@Greg0141 You can use this spoiler markup method to add that effect to any Q or A post (it doesn’t work in comments).
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– SevenSidedDie♦
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The lich doesn't require being grounded
As you've noted a demilich has no movement on land, but can fly and hover. There is also nothing in their stat block or description that mentions ever needing to be touch the ground.
Because of that, there is no mechanical requirement that a lich, who is a flying creature who has hover, needs to come back to the ground. But just because there is no requirement for it doesn't mean that you don't have to have it always off the ground. It just doesn't need to ever be on the ground.
In fact (thanks sdjz!). the combat rules cover the case for when a flying creature with hover (or is magically flying) is knocked prone:
If a flying creature is knocked prone, has its speed reduced to 0, or is otherwise deprived of the ability to move, the creature falls, unless it has the ability to hover.
The rules here do cover the case for a creature prone and reduced to speed zero still being allowed to stay aloft if their flying is magical or if they have hover.
answered 2 hours ago
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Just as a flying creature can land or stay aloft at the end of their turn, I imagine a creature with a floating speed could just float to the ground and take off when they please. Although it is up for interpretation perhaps.
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Speeds don’t determine this
That something has only a fly-hover speed and zero ground speed just means that it can’t move on the ground. It doesn’t say anything about whether it can or can’t stand still on the ground.
Speeds just aren’t there to give information on what media the creature is allowed to touch. If something is incapable of landing and never rests on the ground, that’s more the sort of detail that would appear in a creature’s detailed description of its behaviour and habits.
The demilich in particular lacks this kind of detail saying it only flies. Its description instead implies (but only implies) that it sometimes rests on the ground, when it says
if it is disturbed, these remains rise into the air and assume a wraithlike form.
Its history in D&D more explicitly includes it laying on the ground, including in one of its earliest illustrations in the AD&D Monster Manual II (and its accompanying description):
A classic demilich setup (as in the adventure
Tomb of Horrors
) is to have it laying on the ground until disturbed. To naive adventurers, it looks like a jeweled skull: treasure! Then it “wakes up” (it doesn’t actually sleep, though) and attacks, taking the poor adventurers off guard.
answered 1 hour ago
SevenSidedDie♦SevenSidedDie
209k33669950
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Greatly appreciate the “classic demilich setup “ and spoiler you’ve provided. If I may ask here, how did you manage that blind effect for the spoiler?
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– Greg0141
56 mins ago
1
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@Greg0141 You can use this spoiler markup method to add that effect to any Q or A post (it doesn’t work in comments).
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– SevenSidedDie♦
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$begingroup$
Speeds don’t determine this
That something has only a fly-hover speed and zero ground speed just means that it can’t move on the ground. It doesn’t say anything about whether it can or can’t stand still on the ground.
Speeds just aren’t there to give information on what media the creature is allowed to touch. If something is incapable of landing and never rests on the ground, that’s more the sort of detail that would appear in a creature’s detailed description of its behaviour and habits.
The demilich in particular lacks this kind of detail saying it only flies. Its description instead implies (but only implies) that it sometimes rests on the ground, when it says
if it is disturbed, these remains rise into the air and assume a wraithlike form.
Its history in D&D more explicitly includes it laying on the ground, including in one of its earliest illustrations in the AD&D Monster Manual II (and its accompanying description):
A classic demilich setup (as in the adventure
Tomb of Horrors
) is to have it laying on the ground until disturbed. To naive adventurers, it looks like a jeweled skull: treasure! Then it “wakes up” (it doesn’t actually sleep, though) and attacks, taking the poor adventurers off guard.
answered 1 hour ago
SevenSidedDie♦SevenSidedDie
209k33669950
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Greatly appreciate the “classic demilich setup “ and spoiler you’ve provided. If I may ask here, how did you manage that blind effect for the spoiler?
$endgroup$
– Greg0141
56 mins ago
1
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@Greg0141 You can use this spoiler markup method to add that effect to any Q or A post (it doesn’t work in comments).
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– SevenSidedDie♦
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$begingroup$
Speeds don’t determine this
That something has only a fly-hover speed and zero ground speed just means that it can’t move on the ground. It doesn’t say anything about whether it can or can’t stand still on the ground.
Speeds just aren’t there to give information on what media the creature is allowed to touch. If something is incapable of landing and never rests on the ground, that’s more the sort of detail that would appear in a creature’s detailed description of its behaviour and habits.
The demilich in particular lacks this kind of detail saying it only flies. Its description instead implies (but only implies) that it sometimes rests on the ground, when it says
if it is disturbed, these remains rise into the air and assume a wraithlike form.
Its history in D&D more explicitly includes it laying on the ground, including in one of its earliest illustrations in the AD&D Monster Manual II (and its accompanying description):
A classic demilich setup (as in the adventure
Tomb of Horrors
) is to have it laying on the ground until disturbed. To naive adventurers, it looks like a jeweled skull: treasure! Then it “wakes up” (it doesn’t actually sleep, though) and attacks, taking the poor adventurers off guard.
answered 1 hour ago
SevenSidedDie♦SevenSidedDie
209k33669950
$endgroup$
Speeds don’t determine this
That something has only a fly-hover speed and zero ground speed just means that it can’t move on the ground. It doesn’t say anything about whether it can or can’t stand still on the ground.
Speeds just aren’t there to give information on what media the creature is allowed to touch. If something is incapable of landing and never rests on the ground, that’s more the sort of detail that would appear in a creature’s detailed description of its behaviour and habits.
The demilich in particular lacks this kind of detail saying it only flies. Its description instead implies (but only implies) that it sometimes rests on the ground, when it says
if it is disturbed, these remains rise into the air and assume a wraithlike form.
Its history in D&D more explicitly includes it laying on the ground, including in one of its earliest illustrations in the AD&D Monster Manual II (and its accompanying description):
A classic demilich setup (as in the adventure
Tomb of Horrors
) is to have it laying on the ground until disturbed. To naive adventurers, it looks like a jeweled skull: treasure! Then it “wakes up” (it doesn’t actually sleep, though) and attacks, taking the poor adventurers off guard.
answered 1 hour ago
SevenSidedDie♦SevenSidedDie
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edited 35 mins ago
answered 1 hour ago
SevenSidedDie♦SevenSidedDie
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answered 1 hour ago
SevenSidedDie♦SevenSidedDie
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answered 1 hour ago
SevenSidedDie♦SevenSidedDie
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209k33669950
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Greatly appreciate the “classic demilich setup “ and spoiler you’ve provided. If I may ask here, how did you manage that blind effect for the spoiler?
$endgroup$
– Greg0141
56 mins ago
1
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@Greg0141 You can use this spoiler markup method to add that effect to any Q or A post (it doesn’t work in comments).
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– SevenSidedDie♦
41 mins ago
add a comment |
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Greatly appreciate the “classic demilich setup “ and spoiler you’ve provided. If I may ask here, how did you manage that blind effect for the spoiler?
$endgroup$
– Greg0141
56 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
@Greg0141 You can use this spoiler markup method to add that effect to any Q or A post (it doesn’t work in comments).
$endgroup$
– SevenSidedDie♦
41 mins ago
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Greatly appreciate the “classic demilich setup “ and spoiler you’ve provided. If I may ask here, how did you manage that blind effect for the spoiler?
$endgroup$
– Greg0141
56 mins ago
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Greatly appreciate the “classic demilich setup “ and spoiler you’ve provided. If I may ask here, how did you manage that blind effect for the spoiler?
$endgroup$
– Greg0141
56 mins ago
1
1
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@Greg0141 You can use this spoiler markup method to add that effect to any Q or A post (it doesn’t work in comments).
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– SevenSidedDie♦
41 mins ago
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@Greg0141 You can use this spoiler markup method to add that effect to any Q or A post (it doesn’t work in comments).
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– SevenSidedDie♦
41 mins ago
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The lich doesn't require being grounded
As you've noted a demilich has no movement on land, but can fly and hover. There is also nothing in their stat block or description that mentions ever needing to be touch the ground.
Because of that, there is no mechanical requirement that a lich, who is a flying creature who has hover, needs to come back to the ground. But just because there is no requirement for it doesn't mean that you don't have to have it always off the ground. It just doesn't need to ever be on the ground.
In fact (thanks sdjz!). the combat rules cover the case for when a flying creature with hover (or is magically flying) is knocked prone:
If a flying creature is knocked prone, has its speed reduced to 0, or is otherwise deprived of the ability to move, the creature falls, unless it has the ability to hover.
The rules here do cover the case for a creature prone and reduced to speed zero still being allowed to stay aloft if their flying is magical or if they have hover.
answered 2 hours ago
NautArchNautArch
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$begingroup$
The lich doesn't require being grounded
As you've noted a demilich has no movement on land, but can fly and hover. There is also nothing in their stat block or description that mentions ever needing to be touch the ground.
Because of that, there is no mechanical requirement that a lich, who is a flying creature who has hover, needs to come back to the ground. But just because there is no requirement for it doesn't mean that you don't have to have it always off the ground. It just doesn't need to ever be on the ground.
In fact (thanks sdjz!). the combat rules cover the case for when a flying creature with hover (or is magically flying) is knocked prone:
If a flying creature is knocked prone, has its speed reduced to 0, or is otherwise deprived of the ability to move, the creature falls, unless it has the ability to hover.
The rules here do cover the case for a creature prone and reduced to speed zero still being allowed to stay aloft if their flying is magical or if they have hover.
answered 2 hours ago
NautArchNautArch
61.7k8221407
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The lich doesn't require being grounded
As you've noted a demilich has no movement on land, but can fly and hover. There is also nothing in their stat block or description that mentions ever needing to be touch the ground.
Because of that, there is no mechanical requirement that a lich, who is a flying creature who has hover, needs to come back to the ground. But just because there is no requirement for it doesn't mean that you don't have to have it always off the ground. It just doesn't need to ever be on the ground.
In fact (thanks sdjz!). the combat rules cover the case for when a flying creature with hover (or is magically flying) is knocked prone:
If a flying creature is knocked prone, has its speed reduced to 0, or is otherwise deprived of the ability to move, the creature falls, unless it has the ability to hover.
The rules here do cover the case for a creature prone and reduced to speed zero still being allowed to stay aloft if their flying is magical or if they have hover.
answered 2 hours ago
NautArchNautArch
61.7k8221407
$endgroup$
The lich doesn't require being grounded
As you've noted a demilich has no movement on land, but can fly and hover. There is also nothing in their stat block or description that mentions ever needing to be touch the ground.
Because of that, there is no mechanical requirement that a lich, who is a flying creature who has hover, needs to come back to the ground. But just because there is no requirement for it doesn't mean that you don't have to have it always off the ground. It just doesn't need to ever be on the ground.
In fact (thanks sdjz!). the combat rules cover the case for when a flying creature with hover (or is magically flying) is knocked prone:
If a flying creature is knocked prone, has its speed reduced to 0, or is otherwise deprived of the ability to move, the creature falls, unless it has the ability to hover.
The rules here do cover the case for a creature prone and reduced to speed zero still being allowed to stay aloft if their flying is magical or if they have hover.
answered 2 hours ago
NautArchNautArch
61.7k8221407
edited 1 hour ago
answered 2 hours ago
NautArchNautArch
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Just as a flying creature can land or stay aloft at the end of their turn, I imagine a creature with a floating speed could just float to the ground and take off when they please. Although it is up for interpretation perhaps.
answered 2 hours ago
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Just as a flying creature can land or stay aloft at the end of their turn, I imagine a creature with a floating speed could just float to the ground and take off when they please. Although it is up for interpretation perhaps.
answered 2 hours ago
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Just as a flying creature can land or stay aloft at the end of their turn, I imagine a creature with a floating speed could just float to the ground and take off when they please. Although it is up for interpretation perhaps.
answered 2 hours ago
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Just as a flying creature can land or stay aloft at the end of their turn, I imagine a creature with a floating speed could just float to the ground and take off when they please. Although it is up for interpretation perhaps.
answered 2 hours ago
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@NautArch: for my future reference, how did you manage to format the stat block that I had up? That's the format I was looking to put up but it did not turn out that way
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– Greg0141
2 hours ago
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I put line breaks between each line and started each line with >. If you look at the edit history, you can see what I did.
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– NautArch
2 hours ago
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Out of curiosity, why does a demilich touching the ground matter to your character? Is this part of some plan or strategy? Or just curiosity? Also, you are asking as a player/PC correct?
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– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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@Rubiksmoose: was wondering if someone would ask; this is purely academic and for the future (may become a part of a plan). I'm so new to this and my questions will often reflect that. This could be either for dm creation purposes or for the pc; all learning for me at this point.
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– Greg0141
2 hours ago