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I have a total of 21+ years experience. My first company I worked for 8 years, second company I worked for 6 years, third company I worked for 7 years. Fourth Company I worked for 4 months since I had to quit due to skill mismatch.
My present 5th company I joined six months back. We have total 8,000 employees in my country and worldwide it is some 20,000. I joined a project as a Business Analyst Manager above business analyst team leads. The team leads were not officially reporting to me. They were reporting to the Project Manager (PM). Within a few days, I could make out that the team leads were not putting me in CC related to work. One of the team leads started bullying me, saying that I was not to assign any work to programmers without asking him first.
Shocked I did have a meeting with the PM. Within next week I was rolled off from this project (worked for 2.5 months) and moved to a new project. The reason
he gave me was that there is no role for me in the current project (let's call this project A).
I also got a mail that my interim probation is successful (out of total six months probation) when I was moved to another project (project B). A junior resource (two levels junior to me), who was newly hired in project B, was moved to project A and I replaced him in project B. That junior resource joined project A and left the organisation within 10 days without giving any notice period.
It is now total six months in org and 3.5 months in the new project B. The current manager extended my probation without giving any specifics. He had a meeting for the same but was talking in general. Yes, of course, he did say that I'm not aligned with the company. I did not understand this. In the end when I was getting up, he informed me that he is putting me on a PIP and extending probation for three months and also told me not to think this is firing. I was surprised. I said why this is so since interim probation is successful. He asked whether any meeting happened for interim probation giving me some feedback. I said no. Then he said that does not makes any sense. I politely told him that I will quit if there is a PIP for me. He told me to resign only by giving a serious thought.
One thing I noted that this PM of project B keeps on telling me to upskill on some topics which are some basic topics relating to my technology and these topics are asked in the interview and that is why I'm in this organisation. He told me to do something for the org. But he is not aware that I'm the recruitment head for my area in this org (My hiring manager made me the recruitment spoc for my area of expertise). I clarified this in probation discussion.
I contacted HR. HR said there is no PIP and only probation extension and HR said that they are not aware how much period it is extended. They also told me that they discourage extension beyond one month and that is why interim probation assessment is there for any employee correction. I told HR my role is not clear in the present project. Actually my current manager in project B, tells me that to see what is happening in all the mini projects going around in this main project B. This is not possible since my manager needs to communicate officially to all the members of the mini projects (5 projects) that I need to be looped in mails. This manager looks into all these mini projects. I asked my my manager if I'm suppose to lead these projects. He says no. So I am confused by his statements.
HR asked me that it is the manager who is supposed to give me reasons and I said he did not specifically gave data points for probation extension. HR said they will try to arrange a meeting with the manager but nothing happened till date.
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Should I ask for a roll off from project B? Is it possible to keep working like this with same manager? I'm not sure what is happening. One thing that's for sure is that mine is a case of unplanned hiring since project A wanted a junior resource and project B also hired a junior resource but they exchanged the same with me as said above.
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I have a total of 21+ years experience. My first company I worked for 8 years, second company I worked for 6 years, third company I worked for 7 years. Fourth Company I worked for 4 months since I had to quit due to skill mismatch.
My present 5th company I joined six months back. We have total 8,000 employees in my country and worldwide it is some 20,000. I joined a project as a Business Analyst Manager above business analyst team leads. The team leads were not officially reporting to me. They were reporting to the Project Manager (PM). Within a few days, I could make out that the team leads were not putting me in CC related to work. One of the team leads started bullying me, saying that I was not to assign any work to programmers without asking him first.
Shocked I did have a meeting with the PM. Within next week I was rolled off from this project (worked for 2.5 months) and moved to a new project. The reason
he gave me was that there is no role for me in the current project (let's call this project A).
I also got a mail that my interim probation is successful (out of total six months probation) when I was moved to another project (project B). A junior resource (two levels junior to me), who was newly hired in project B, was moved to project A and I replaced him in project B. That junior resource joined project A and left the organisation within 10 days without giving any notice period.
It is now total six months in org and 3.5 months in the new project B. The current manager extended my probation without giving any specifics. He had a meeting for the same but was talking in general. Yes, of course, he did say that I'm not aligned with the company. I did not understand this. In the end when I was getting up, he informed me that he is putting me on a PIP and extending probation for three months and also told me not to think this is firing. I was surprised. I said why this is so since interim probation is successful. He asked whether any meeting happened for interim probation giving me some feedback. I said no. Then he said that does not makes any sense. I politely told him that I will quit if there is a PIP for me. He told me to resign only by giving a serious thought.
One thing I noted that this PM of project B keeps on telling me to upskill on some topics which are some basic topics relating to my technology and these topics are asked in the interview and that is why I'm in this organisation. He told me to do something for the org. But he is not aware that I'm the recruitment head for my area in this org (My hiring manager made me the recruitment spoc for my area of expertise). I clarified this in probation discussion.
I contacted HR. HR said there is no PIP and only probation extension and HR said that they are not aware how much period it is extended. They also told me that they discourage extension beyond one month and that is why interim probation assessment is there for any employee correction. I told HR my role is not clear in the present project. Actually my current manager in project B, tells me that to see what is happening in all the mini projects going around in this main project B. This is not possible since my manager needs to communicate officially to all the members of the mini projects (5 projects) that I need to be looped in mails. This manager looks into all these mini projects. I asked my my manager if I'm suppose to lead these projects. He says no. So I am confused by his statements.
HR asked me that it is the manager who is supposed to give me reasons and I said he did not specifically gave data points for probation extension. HR said they will try to arrange a meeting with the manager but nothing happened till date.
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Should I ask for a roll off from project B? Is it possible to keep working like this with same manager? I'm not sure what is happening. One thing that's for sure is that mine is a case of unplanned hiring since project A wanted a junior resource and project B also hired a junior resource but they exchanged the same with me as said above.
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I have a total of 21+ years experience. My first company I worked for 8 years, second company I worked for 6 years, third company I worked for 7 years. Fourth Company I worked for 4 months since I had to quit due to skill mismatch.
My present 5th company I joined six months back. We have total 8,000 employees in my country and worldwide it is some 20,000. I joined a project as a Business Analyst Manager above business analyst team leads. The team leads were not officially reporting to me. They were reporting to the Project Manager (PM). Within a few days, I could make out that the team leads were not putting me in CC related to work. One of the team leads started bullying me, saying that I was not to assign any work to programmers without asking him first.
Shocked I did have a meeting with the PM. Within next week I was rolled off from this project (worked for 2.5 months) and moved to a new project. The reason
he gave me was that there is no role for me in the current project (let's call this project A).
I also got a mail that my interim probation is successful (out of total six months probation) when I was moved to another project (project B). A junior resource (two levels junior to me), who was newly hired in project B, was moved to project A and I replaced him in project B. That junior resource joined project A and left the organisation within 10 days without giving any notice period.
It is now total six months in org and 3.5 months in the new project B. The current manager extended my probation without giving any specifics. He had a meeting for the same but was talking in general. Yes, of course, he did say that I'm not aligned with the company. I did not understand this. In the end when I was getting up, he informed me that he is putting me on a PIP and extending probation for three months and also told me not to think this is firing. I was surprised. I said why this is so since interim probation is successful. He asked whether any meeting happened for interim probation giving me some feedback. I said no. Then he said that does not makes any sense. I politely told him that I will quit if there is a PIP for me. He told me to resign only by giving a serious thought.
One thing I noted that this PM of project B keeps on telling me to upskill on some topics which are some basic topics relating to my technology and these topics are asked in the interview and that is why I'm in this organisation. He told me to do something for the org. But he is not aware that I'm the recruitment head for my area in this org (My hiring manager made me the recruitment spoc for my area of expertise). I clarified this in probation discussion.
I contacted HR. HR said there is no PIP and only probation extension and HR said that they are not aware how much period it is extended. They also told me that they discourage extension beyond one month and that is why interim probation assessment is there for any employee correction. I told HR my role is not clear in the present project. Actually my current manager in project B, tells me that to see what is happening in all the mini projects going around in this main project B. This is not possible since my manager needs to communicate officially to all the members of the mini projects (5 projects) that I need to be looped in mails. This manager looks into all these mini projects. I asked my my manager if I'm suppose to lead these projects. He says no. So I am confused by his statements.
HR asked me that it is the manager who is supposed to give me reasons and I said he did not specifically gave data points for probation extension. HR said they will try to arrange a meeting with the manager but nothing happened till date.
Question
Should I ask for a roll off from project B? Is it possible to keep working like this with same manager? I'm not sure what is happening. One thing that's for sure is that mine is a case of unplanned hiring since project A wanted a junior resource and project B also hired a junior resource but they exchanged the same with me as said above.
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I have a total of 21+ years experience. My first company I worked for 8 years, second company I worked for 6 years, third company I worked for 7 years. Fourth Company I worked for 4 months since I had to quit due to skill mismatch.
My present 5th company I joined six months back. We have total 8,000 employees in my country and worldwide it is some 20,000. I joined a project as a Business Analyst Manager above business analyst team leads. The team leads were not officially reporting to me. They were reporting to the Project Manager (PM). Within a few days, I could make out that the team leads were not putting me in CC related to work. One of the team leads started bullying me, saying that I was not to assign any work to programmers without asking him first.
Shocked I did have a meeting with the PM. Within next week I was rolled off from this project (worked for 2.5 months) and moved to a new project. The reason
he gave me was that there is no role for me in the current project (let's call this project A).
I also got a mail that my interim probation is successful (out of total six months probation) when I was moved to another project (project B). A junior resource (two levels junior to me), who was newly hired in project B, was moved to project A and I replaced him in project B. That junior resource joined project A and left the organisation within 10 days without giving any notice period.
It is now total six months in org and 3.5 months in the new project B. The current manager extended my probation without giving any specifics. He had a meeting for the same but was talking in general. Yes, of course, he did say that I'm not aligned with the company. I did not understand this. In the end when I was getting up, he informed me that he is putting me on a PIP and extending probation for three months and also told me not to think this is firing. I was surprised. I said why this is so since interim probation is successful. He asked whether any meeting happened for interim probation giving me some feedback. I said no. Then he said that does not makes any sense. I politely told him that I will quit if there is a PIP for me. He told me to resign only by giving a serious thought.
One thing I noted that this PM of project B keeps on telling me to upskill on some topics which are some basic topics relating to my technology and these topics are asked in the interview and that is why I'm in this organisation. He told me to do something for the org. But he is not aware that I'm the recruitment head for my area in this org (My hiring manager made me the recruitment spoc for my area of expertise). I clarified this in probation discussion.
I contacted HR. HR said there is no PIP and only probation extension and HR said that they are not aware how much period it is extended. They also told me that they discourage extension beyond one month and that is why interim probation assessment is there for any employee correction. I told HR my role is not clear in the present project. Actually my current manager in project B, tells me that to see what is happening in all the mini projects going around in this main project B. This is not possible since my manager needs to communicate officially to all the members of the mini projects (5 projects) that I need to be looped in mails. This manager looks into all these mini projects. I asked my my manager if I'm suppose to lead these projects. He says no. So I am confused by his statements.
HR asked me that it is the manager who is supposed to give me reasons and I said he did not specifically gave data points for probation extension. HR said they will try to arrange a meeting with the manager but nothing happened till date.
Question
Should I ask for a roll off from project B? Is it possible to keep working like this with same manager? I'm not sure what is happening. One thing that's for sure is that mine is a case of unplanned hiring since project A wanted a junior resource and project B also hired a junior resource but they exchanged the same with me as said above.
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Chances are it was less costly to have the junior resource work on Project A and the company did not want to lose you so you were moved into the first available spot to buy some time figuring out what to do with you.
Seems like the new manager either did not like you or did not want to pay for a senior resource. He was getting ready to fire you and was trying to do the PIP in case he could not get rid of you during the probation extension.
If I were you I would update my resume and start looking.
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Chances are it was less costly to have the junior resource work on Project A and the company did not want to lose you so you were moved into the first available spot to buy some time figuring out what to do with you.
Seems like the new manager either did not like you or did not want to pay for a senior resource. He was getting ready to fire you and was trying to do the PIP in case he could not get rid of you during the probation extension.
If I were you I would update my resume and start looking.
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Chances are it was less costly to have the junior resource work on Project A and the company did not want to lose you so you were moved into the first available spot to buy some time figuring out what to do with you.
Seems like the new manager either did not like you or did not want to pay for a senior resource. He was getting ready to fire you and was trying to do the PIP in case he could not get rid of you during the probation extension.
If I were you I would update my resume and start looking.
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Chances are it was less costly to have the junior resource work on Project A and the company did not want to lose you so you were moved into the first available spot to buy some time figuring out what to do with you.
Seems like the new manager either did not like you or did not want to pay for a senior resource. He was getting ready to fire you and was trying to do the PIP in case he could not get rid of you during the probation extension.
If I were you I would update my resume and start looking.
Chances are it was less costly to have the junior resource work on Project A and the company did not want to lose you so you were moved into the first available spot to buy some time figuring out what to do with you.
Seems like the new manager either did not like you or did not want to pay for a senior resource. He was getting ready to fire you and was trying to do the PIP in case he could not get rid of you during the probation extension.
If I were you I would update my resume and start looking.
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