Does ICMP Redirect message is really bad?











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Due to MITM attack, ICMP redirect message should be blocked. However, original purpose of ICMP redirect message is to inform host better router(or gateway).



Then, Is there a speed issue by disabling ICMP redirect message in host? or negligible?










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    Due to MITM attack, ICMP redirect message should be blocked. However, original purpose of ICMP redirect message is to inform host better router(or gateway).



    Then, Is there a speed issue by disabling ICMP redirect message in host? or negligible?










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      Due to MITM attack, ICMP redirect message should be blocked. However, original purpose of ICMP redirect message is to inform host better router(or gateway).



      Then, Is there a speed issue by disabling ICMP redirect message in host? or negligible?










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      Due to MITM attack, ICMP redirect message should be blocked. However, original purpose of ICMP redirect message is to inform host better router(or gateway).



      Then, Is there a speed issue by disabling ICMP redirect message in host? or negligible?







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          ICMP re-directs are most often seen when you have a host or router A in the same subnet with two other routers B & C and connectivity to both. Consider the following network:



             |__192.168.1.0/24__|
          | | |
          |
          | |___192.168.8.0/24__|
          | | | |
          B C
          |____|_____|____|
          | | |
          A


          A will have a route (most likely a default) pointing to B, and B will have a more specific route to a 192.168.8.0/24 pointing to C.



          Without ICMP redirects, all traffic from A to 192.168.8.0/24 will be routed A->B->C



          With ICMP re-direct enabled, B will inform A that C is a better next-hop and subsequent traffic will be routed A->C.



          Obviously B is an extra hop and depending on what kind of box it is, it may introduce extra latency.



          Disabling ICMP-Redirects and redesigning the network to avoid this situation entirely would be the preferred solution eg:



             |__192.168.1.0/24__|
          | | |
          |
          | |___192.168.8.0/24__|
          | | | |
          B-----C
          |____|__________|
          | | |
          A


          (or remove C entirely and hang 192.168.8.0/24 directly off B).






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          • Then, what you mean is that structure of network is more important than ICMP redirect?
            – baeharam
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          • ICMP redirect indicates that there is sub-optimal routing configured and tries to resolve this - IMO this is a design problem
            – Benjamin Dale
            44 mins ago











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          ICMP re-directs are most often seen when you have a host or router A in the same subnet with two other routers B & C and connectivity to both. Consider the following network:



             |__192.168.1.0/24__|
          | | |
          |
          | |___192.168.8.0/24__|
          | | | |
          B C
          |____|_____|____|
          | | |
          A


          A will have a route (most likely a default) pointing to B, and B will have a more specific route to a 192.168.8.0/24 pointing to C.



          Without ICMP redirects, all traffic from A to 192.168.8.0/24 will be routed A->B->C



          With ICMP re-direct enabled, B will inform A that C is a better next-hop and subsequent traffic will be routed A->C.



          Obviously B is an extra hop and depending on what kind of box it is, it may introduce extra latency.



          Disabling ICMP-Redirects and redesigning the network to avoid this situation entirely would be the preferred solution eg:



             |__192.168.1.0/24__|
          | | |
          |
          | |___192.168.8.0/24__|
          | | | |
          B-----C
          |____|__________|
          | | |
          A


          (or remove C entirely and hang 192.168.8.0/24 directly off B).






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          • Then, what you mean is that structure of network is more important than ICMP redirect?
            – baeharam
            4 hours ago










          • ICMP redirect indicates that there is sub-optimal routing configured and tries to resolve this - IMO this is a design problem
            – Benjamin Dale
            44 mins ago















          up vote
          2
          down vote



          accepted










          ICMP re-directs are most often seen when you have a host or router A in the same subnet with two other routers B & C and connectivity to both. Consider the following network:



             |__192.168.1.0/24__|
          | | |
          |
          | |___192.168.8.0/24__|
          | | | |
          B C
          |____|_____|____|
          | | |
          A


          A will have a route (most likely a default) pointing to B, and B will have a more specific route to a 192.168.8.0/24 pointing to C.



          Without ICMP redirects, all traffic from A to 192.168.8.0/24 will be routed A->B->C



          With ICMP re-direct enabled, B will inform A that C is a better next-hop and subsequent traffic will be routed A->C.



          Obviously B is an extra hop and depending on what kind of box it is, it may introduce extra latency.



          Disabling ICMP-Redirects and redesigning the network to avoid this situation entirely would be the preferred solution eg:



             |__192.168.1.0/24__|
          | | |
          |
          | |___192.168.8.0/24__|
          | | | |
          B-----C
          |____|__________|
          | | |
          A


          (or remove C entirely and hang 192.168.8.0/24 directly off B).






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          • Then, what you mean is that structure of network is more important than ICMP redirect?
            – baeharam
            4 hours ago










          • ICMP redirect indicates that there is sub-optimal routing configured and tries to resolve this - IMO this is a design problem
            – Benjamin Dale
            44 mins ago













          up vote
          2
          down vote



          accepted







          up vote
          2
          down vote



          accepted






          ICMP re-directs are most often seen when you have a host or router A in the same subnet with two other routers B & C and connectivity to both. Consider the following network:



             |__192.168.1.0/24__|
          | | |
          |
          | |___192.168.8.0/24__|
          | | | |
          B C
          |____|_____|____|
          | | |
          A


          A will have a route (most likely a default) pointing to B, and B will have a more specific route to a 192.168.8.0/24 pointing to C.



          Without ICMP redirects, all traffic from A to 192.168.8.0/24 will be routed A->B->C



          With ICMP re-direct enabled, B will inform A that C is a better next-hop and subsequent traffic will be routed A->C.



          Obviously B is an extra hop and depending on what kind of box it is, it may introduce extra latency.



          Disabling ICMP-Redirects and redesigning the network to avoid this situation entirely would be the preferred solution eg:



             |__192.168.1.0/24__|
          | | |
          |
          | |___192.168.8.0/24__|
          | | | |
          B-----C
          |____|__________|
          | | |
          A


          (or remove C entirely and hang 192.168.8.0/24 directly off B).






          share|improve this answer












          ICMP re-directs are most often seen when you have a host or router A in the same subnet with two other routers B & C and connectivity to both. Consider the following network:



             |__192.168.1.0/24__|
          | | |
          |
          | |___192.168.8.0/24__|
          | | | |
          B C
          |____|_____|____|
          | | |
          A


          A will have a route (most likely a default) pointing to B, and B will have a more specific route to a 192.168.8.0/24 pointing to C.



          Without ICMP redirects, all traffic from A to 192.168.8.0/24 will be routed A->B->C



          With ICMP re-direct enabled, B will inform A that C is a better next-hop and subsequent traffic will be routed A->C.



          Obviously B is an extra hop and depending on what kind of box it is, it may introduce extra latency.



          Disabling ICMP-Redirects and redesigning the network to avoid this situation entirely would be the preferred solution eg:



             |__192.168.1.0/24__|
          | | |
          |
          | |___192.168.8.0/24__|
          | | | |
          B-----C
          |____|__________|
          | | |
          A


          (or remove C entirely and hang 192.168.8.0/24 directly off B).







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          • Then, what you mean is that structure of network is more important than ICMP redirect?
            – baeharam
            4 hours ago










          • ICMP redirect indicates that there is sub-optimal routing configured and tries to resolve this - IMO this is a design problem
            – Benjamin Dale
            44 mins ago


















          • Then, what you mean is that structure of network is more important than ICMP redirect?
            – baeharam
            4 hours ago










          • ICMP redirect indicates that there is sub-optimal routing configured and tries to resolve this - IMO this is a design problem
            – Benjamin Dale
            44 mins ago
















          Then, what you mean is that structure of network is more important than ICMP redirect?
          – baeharam
          4 hours ago




          Then, what you mean is that structure of network is more important than ICMP redirect?
          – baeharam
          4 hours ago












          ICMP redirect indicates that there is sub-optimal routing configured and tries to resolve this - IMO this is a design problem
          – Benjamin Dale
          44 mins ago




          ICMP redirect indicates that there is sub-optimal routing configured and tries to resolve this - IMO this is a design problem
          – Benjamin Dale
          44 mins ago


















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