Why is Excel butchering my Conditional Formatting?












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I have this conditional formatting set



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but when I move/delete/copy/cut/paste/insert a cell/row/column my conditional formatting becomes like this



enter image description here



The rules have duplicated themselves, the "Applies to" now is broken up and from the little bit you can see one of my blue rules has an altered Rule.



Sometimes I make mistakes when making an Excel spreadsheet requiring me to move and or delete stuff from a single cell to entire rows. Why does Excel think it's necessary to butcher my conditional formatting ? Especially since by creating these duplicate rules it gives me more work to do if I need to refine them later on which is what I use conditional formatting to avoid doing i.e. more work










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  • FWIW, I've just did some basic testing in my Excel 2016, and no matter how I copy/pasted, inserted, or deleted, my range stayed "=$A:$D", except when I inserted or deleted a column within my range, and then it just expanded or contracted my range as expected. As with most weird app behaviour, I have to ask if you have all the latest service packs and Office updates installed?

    – DarkMoon
    Aug 14 '16 at 23:59











  • @DarkMoon well my PC is Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Update does say it's all up to date (Excel points me to Windows Update when i go File > Help > Check for Updates) so i would assume it's all up to date. as i have tagged 2010 it could be sometime between after 2010 and 2016 versions of Office this was fixed up as being a bug

    – Memor-X
    Aug 15 '16 at 0:04













  • Yeah, I was more pointing out that that behaviour isn't happening for me, so it's not "by design". :-P Hence the question about updates. When you're in the Windows Update screen, there should be an option to enable "updates for other Microsoft products", which is off by default in Win7; have you enabled that? If not, you won't see Office updates in Windows Update. One other thought; can you reproduce this behaviour in a new workbook? Might be something wrong within the file rather than Excel itself?

    – DarkMoon
    Aug 15 '16 at 0:09











  • What's in lines 73-74? What happens if you delete lines 73-74 before performing the operations that cause the rules to change?

    – techraf
    Aug 15 '16 at 0:16








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    Possible duplicate of Excel conditional formatting fragmentation

    – Fabian Schmied
    Jan 3 at 8:22
















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I have this conditional formatting set



enter image description here



but when I move/delete/copy/cut/paste/insert a cell/row/column my conditional formatting becomes like this



enter image description here



The rules have duplicated themselves, the "Applies to" now is broken up and from the little bit you can see one of my blue rules has an altered Rule.



Sometimes I make mistakes when making an Excel spreadsheet requiring me to move and or delete stuff from a single cell to entire rows. Why does Excel think it's necessary to butcher my conditional formatting ? Especially since by creating these duplicate rules it gives me more work to do if I need to refine them later on which is what I use conditional formatting to avoid doing i.e. more work










share|improve this question

























  • FWIW, I've just did some basic testing in my Excel 2016, and no matter how I copy/pasted, inserted, or deleted, my range stayed "=$A:$D", except when I inserted or deleted a column within my range, and then it just expanded or contracted my range as expected. As with most weird app behaviour, I have to ask if you have all the latest service packs and Office updates installed?

    – DarkMoon
    Aug 14 '16 at 23:59











  • @DarkMoon well my PC is Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Update does say it's all up to date (Excel points me to Windows Update when i go File > Help > Check for Updates) so i would assume it's all up to date. as i have tagged 2010 it could be sometime between after 2010 and 2016 versions of Office this was fixed up as being a bug

    – Memor-X
    Aug 15 '16 at 0:04













  • Yeah, I was more pointing out that that behaviour isn't happening for me, so it's not "by design". :-P Hence the question about updates. When you're in the Windows Update screen, there should be an option to enable "updates for other Microsoft products", which is off by default in Win7; have you enabled that? If not, you won't see Office updates in Windows Update. One other thought; can you reproduce this behaviour in a new workbook? Might be something wrong within the file rather than Excel itself?

    – DarkMoon
    Aug 15 '16 at 0:09











  • What's in lines 73-74? What happens if you delete lines 73-74 before performing the operations that cause the rules to change?

    – techraf
    Aug 15 '16 at 0:16








  • 1





    Possible duplicate of Excel conditional formatting fragmentation

    – Fabian Schmied
    Jan 3 at 8:22














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I have this conditional formatting set



enter image description here



but when I move/delete/copy/cut/paste/insert a cell/row/column my conditional formatting becomes like this



enter image description here



The rules have duplicated themselves, the "Applies to" now is broken up and from the little bit you can see one of my blue rules has an altered Rule.



Sometimes I make mistakes when making an Excel spreadsheet requiring me to move and or delete stuff from a single cell to entire rows. Why does Excel think it's necessary to butcher my conditional formatting ? Especially since by creating these duplicate rules it gives me more work to do if I need to refine them later on which is what I use conditional formatting to avoid doing i.e. more work










share|improve this question
















I have this conditional formatting set



enter image description here



but when I move/delete/copy/cut/paste/insert a cell/row/column my conditional formatting becomes like this



enter image description here



The rules have duplicated themselves, the "Applies to" now is broken up and from the little bit you can see one of my blue rules has an altered Rule.



Sometimes I make mistakes when making an Excel spreadsheet requiring me to move and or delete stuff from a single cell to entire rows. Why does Excel think it's necessary to butcher my conditional formatting ? Especially since by creating these duplicate rules it gives me more work to do if I need to refine them later on which is what I use conditional formatting to avoid doing i.e. more work







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  • FWIW, I've just did some basic testing in my Excel 2016, and no matter how I copy/pasted, inserted, or deleted, my range stayed "=$A:$D", except when I inserted or deleted a column within my range, and then it just expanded or contracted my range as expected. As with most weird app behaviour, I have to ask if you have all the latest service packs and Office updates installed?

    – DarkMoon
    Aug 14 '16 at 23:59











  • @DarkMoon well my PC is Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Update does say it's all up to date (Excel points me to Windows Update when i go File > Help > Check for Updates) so i would assume it's all up to date. as i have tagged 2010 it could be sometime between after 2010 and 2016 versions of Office this was fixed up as being a bug

    – Memor-X
    Aug 15 '16 at 0:04













  • Yeah, I was more pointing out that that behaviour isn't happening for me, so it's not "by design". :-P Hence the question about updates. When you're in the Windows Update screen, there should be an option to enable "updates for other Microsoft products", which is off by default in Win7; have you enabled that? If not, you won't see Office updates in Windows Update. One other thought; can you reproduce this behaviour in a new workbook? Might be something wrong within the file rather than Excel itself?

    – DarkMoon
    Aug 15 '16 at 0:09











  • What's in lines 73-74? What happens if you delete lines 73-74 before performing the operations that cause the rules to change?

    – techraf
    Aug 15 '16 at 0:16








  • 1





    Possible duplicate of Excel conditional formatting fragmentation

    – Fabian Schmied
    Jan 3 at 8:22



















  • FWIW, I've just did some basic testing in my Excel 2016, and no matter how I copy/pasted, inserted, or deleted, my range stayed "=$A:$D", except when I inserted or deleted a column within my range, and then it just expanded or contracted my range as expected. As with most weird app behaviour, I have to ask if you have all the latest service packs and Office updates installed?

    – DarkMoon
    Aug 14 '16 at 23:59











  • @DarkMoon well my PC is Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Update does say it's all up to date (Excel points me to Windows Update when i go File > Help > Check for Updates) so i would assume it's all up to date. as i have tagged 2010 it could be sometime between after 2010 and 2016 versions of Office this was fixed up as being a bug

    – Memor-X
    Aug 15 '16 at 0:04













  • Yeah, I was more pointing out that that behaviour isn't happening for me, so it's not "by design". :-P Hence the question about updates. When you're in the Windows Update screen, there should be an option to enable "updates for other Microsoft products", which is off by default in Win7; have you enabled that? If not, you won't see Office updates in Windows Update. One other thought; can you reproduce this behaviour in a new workbook? Might be something wrong within the file rather than Excel itself?

    – DarkMoon
    Aug 15 '16 at 0:09











  • What's in lines 73-74? What happens if you delete lines 73-74 before performing the operations that cause the rules to change?

    – techraf
    Aug 15 '16 at 0:16








  • 1





    Possible duplicate of Excel conditional formatting fragmentation

    – Fabian Schmied
    Jan 3 at 8:22

















FWIW, I've just did some basic testing in my Excel 2016, and no matter how I copy/pasted, inserted, or deleted, my range stayed "=$A:$D", except when I inserted or deleted a column within my range, and then it just expanded or contracted my range as expected. As with most weird app behaviour, I have to ask if you have all the latest service packs and Office updates installed?

– DarkMoon
Aug 14 '16 at 23:59





FWIW, I've just did some basic testing in my Excel 2016, and no matter how I copy/pasted, inserted, or deleted, my range stayed "=$A:$D", except when I inserted or deleted a column within my range, and then it just expanded or contracted my range as expected. As with most weird app behaviour, I have to ask if you have all the latest service packs and Office updates installed?

– DarkMoon
Aug 14 '16 at 23:59













@DarkMoon well my PC is Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Update does say it's all up to date (Excel points me to Windows Update when i go File > Help > Check for Updates) so i would assume it's all up to date. as i have tagged 2010 it could be sometime between after 2010 and 2016 versions of Office this was fixed up as being a bug

– Memor-X
Aug 15 '16 at 0:04







@DarkMoon well my PC is Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Update does say it's all up to date (Excel points me to Windows Update when i go File > Help > Check for Updates) so i would assume it's all up to date. as i have tagged 2010 it could be sometime between after 2010 and 2016 versions of Office this was fixed up as being a bug

– Memor-X
Aug 15 '16 at 0:04















Yeah, I was more pointing out that that behaviour isn't happening for me, so it's not "by design". :-P Hence the question about updates. When you're in the Windows Update screen, there should be an option to enable "updates for other Microsoft products", which is off by default in Win7; have you enabled that? If not, you won't see Office updates in Windows Update. One other thought; can you reproduce this behaviour in a new workbook? Might be something wrong within the file rather than Excel itself?

– DarkMoon
Aug 15 '16 at 0:09





Yeah, I was more pointing out that that behaviour isn't happening for me, so it's not "by design". :-P Hence the question about updates. When you're in the Windows Update screen, there should be an option to enable "updates for other Microsoft products", which is off by default in Win7; have you enabled that? If not, you won't see Office updates in Windows Update. One other thought; can you reproduce this behaviour in a new workbook? Might be something wrong within the file rather than Excel itself?

– DarkMoon
Aug 15 '16 at 0:09













What's in lines 73-74? What happens if you delete lines 73-74 before performing the operations that cause the rules to change?

– techraf
Aug 15 '16 at 0:16







What's in lines 73-74? What happens if you delete lines 73-74 before performing the operations that cause the rules to change?

– techraf
Aug 15 '16 at 0:16






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Possible duplicate of Excel conditional formatting fragmentation

– Fabian Schmied
Jan 3 at 8:22





Possible duplicate of Excel conditional formatting fragmentation

– Fabian Schmied
Jan 3 at 8:22










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This happens when you Cut/Copy and then Paste lines within the applied range, in Excel 2000, 2003, 2007, and 2010 (I don't know about others).



it is still fully functional; if you consider then first and fifth line shown, they together define the complete range (just stupidly split), and the formula is identical for both (note that each formula is shown relative to the first cell it applies to; as the formula in the fifth line applies to $D$74, it contains ...$D$74... in it).



I have not found a way (looking for several years) to change that behavior. Whenever you copy or cut and then insert lines several times, Excel cuts the respective conditional formulas' ranges in pieces like this.



A manual workaround (to repair the formulas) is to




  1. Select all lines except the first, chose 'Clear Rules from Selected Cells'. You will now have your conditional formatting only in the first line.

  2. Open the Conditional Formatting manager, chose 'This worksheet', and extend all formulas to all lines (by typing :$nnnn over :$2).

  3. Yes you will have to repeat that ever so often. As I said, I have not found a better solution in years.






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  • "it is still fully functional" - unfortunately not. I've the same issue with a pivot table, upon filter changes rules disappear from the range of the table. However thanks for the tip

    – Máté Juhász
    Aug 19 '16 at 12:32











  • See also superuser.com/a/991431/79488

    – Fabian Schmied
    Jan 3 at 8:22











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This happens when you Cut/Copy and then Paste lines within the applied range, in Excel 2000, 2003, 2007, and 2010 (I don't know about others).



it is still fully functional; if you consider then first and fifth line shown, they together define the complete range (just stupidly split), and the formula is identical for both (note that each formula is shown relative to the first cell it applies to; as the formula in the fifth line applies to $D$74, it contains ...$D$74... in it).



I have not found a way (looking for several years) to change that behavior. Whenever you copy or cut and then insert lines several times, Excel cuts the respective conditional formulas' ranges in pieces like this.



A manual workaround (to repair the formulas) is to




  1. Select all lines except the first, chose 'Clear Rules from Selected Cells'. You will now have your conditional formatting only in the first line.

  2. Open the Conditional Formatting manager, chose 'This worksheet', and extend all formulas to all lines (by typing :$nnnn over :$2).

  3. Yes you will have to repeat that ever so often. As I said, I have not found a better solution in years.






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  • "it is still fully functional" - unfortunately not. I've the same issue with a pivot table, upon filter changes rules disappear from the range of the table. However thanks for the tip

    – Máté Juhász
    Aug 19 '16 at 12:32











  • See also superuser.com/a/991431/79488

    – Fabian Schmied
    Jan 3 at 8:22
















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This happens when you Cut/Copy and then Paste lines within the applied range, in Excel 2000, 2003, 2007, and 2010 (I don't know about others).



it is still fully functional; if you consider then first and fifth line shown, they together define the complete range (just stupidly split), and the formula is identical for both (note that each formula is shown relative to the first cell it applies to; as the formula in the fifth line applies to $D$74, it contains ...$D$74... in it).



I have not found a way (looking for several years) to change that behavior. Whenever you copy or cut and then insert lines several times, Excel cuts the respective conditional formulas' ranges in pieces like this.



A manual workaround (to repair the formulas) is to




  1. Select all lines except the first, chose 'Clear Rules from Selected Cells'. You will now have your conditional formatting only in the first line.

  2. Open the Conditional Formatting manager, chose 'This worksheet', and extend all formulas to all lines (by typing :$nnnn over :$2).

  3. Yes you will have to repeat that ever so often. As I said, I have not found a better solution in years.






share|improve this answer
























  • "it is still fully functional" - unfortunately not. I've the same issue with a pivot table, upon filter changes rules disappear from the range of the table. However thanks for the tip

    – Máté Juhász
    Aug 19 '16 at 12:32











  • See also superuser.com/a/991431/79488

    – Fabian Schmied
    Jan 3 at 8:22














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This happens when you Cut/Copy and then Paste lines within the applied range, in Excel 2000, 2003, 2007, and 2010 (I don't know about others).



it is still fully functional; if you consider then first and fifth line shown, they together define the complete range (just stupidly split), and the formula is identical for both (note that each formula is shown relative to the first cell it applies to; as the formula in the fifth line applies to $D$74, it contains ...$D$74... in it).



I have not found a way (looking for several years) to change that behavior. Whenever you copy or cut and then insert lines several times, Excel cuts the respective conditional formulas' ranges in pieces like this.



A manual workaround (to repair the formulas) is to




  1. Select all lines except the first, chose 'Clear Rules from Selected Cells'. You will now have your conditional formatting only in the first line.

  2. Open the Conditional Formatting manager, chose 'This worksheet', and extend all formulas to all lines (by typing :$nnnn over :$2).

  3. Yes you will have to repeat that ever so often. As I said, I have not found a better solution in years.






share|improve this answer













This happens when you Cut/Copy and then Paste lines within the applied range, in Excel 2000, 2003, 2007, and 2010 (I don't know about others).



it is still fully functional; if you consider then first and fifth line shown, they together define the complete range (just stupidly split), and the formula is identical for both (note that each formula is shown relative to the first cell it applies to; as the formula in the fifth line applies to $D$74, it contains ...$D$74... in it).



I have not found a way (looking for several years) to change that behavior. Whenever you copy or cut and then insert lines several times, Excel cuts the respective conditional formulas' ranges in pieces like this.



A manual workaround (to repair the formulas) is to




  1. Select all lines except the first, chose 'Clear Rules from Selected Cells'. You will now have your conditional formatting only in the first line.

  2. Open the Conditional Formatting manager, chose 'This worksheet', and extend all formulas to all lines (by typing :$nnnn over :$2).

  3. Yes you will have to repeat that ever so often. As I said, I have not found a better solution in years.







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  • "it is still fully functional" - unfortunately not. I've the same issue with a pivot table, upon filter changes rules disappear from the range of the table. However thanks for the tip

    – Máté Juhász
    Aug 19 '16 at 12:32











  • See also superuser.com/a/991431/79488

    – Fabian Schmied
    Jan 3 at 8:22



















  • "it is still fully functional" - unfortunately not. I've the same issue with a pivot table, upon filter changes rules disappear from the range of the table. However thanks for the tip

    – Máté Juhász
    Aug 19 '16 at 12:32











  • See also superuser.com/a/991431/79488

    – Fabian Schmied
    Jan 3 at 8:22

















"it is still fully functional" - unfortunately not. I've the same issue with a pivot table, upon filter changes rules disappear from the range of the table. However thanks for the tip

– Máté Juhász
Aug 19 '16 at 12:32





"it is still fully functional" - unfortunately not. I've the same issue with a pivot table, upon filter changes rules disappear from the range of the table. However thanks for the tip

– Máté Juhász
Aug 19 '16 at 12:32













See also superuser.com/a/991431/79488

– Fabian Schmied
Jan 3 at 8:22





See also superuser.com/a/991431/79488

– Fabian Schmied
Jan 3 at 8:22


















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