Where does the emperor sit and why the earplugs?
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The Emperor is annoyed that the crowd routinely chant out of step at the Empire's largest circular amphitheatre. For example, they are supposed to shout phrases in unison such as "Hail to the Emperor, he is great!" and yet they always sound like a rabble.
All powerful though he may be, he realises he can't punish the whole crowd at every event. Bread and circuses and all that.
Nevertheless he decides that just for once on his next birthday his Court Musician must arrange an event where he trains a crowd of people (the chorus) to occupy the front few rows of the arena's seats and chant a spoken birthday ode to him in perfect time.
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How does the Court Musician keep everyone in time?
Why does he equip everyone in the chorus with earplugs?
Where is the only place for the Emperor's throne and why?
EDITED to tidy up and make clearer. Apologies if I have changed anything too much.
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The Emperor is annoyed that the crowd routinely chant out of step at the Empire's largest circular amphitheatre. For example, they are supposed to shout phrases in unison such as "Hail to the Emperor, he is great!" and yet they always sound like a rabble.
All powerful though he may be, he realises he can't punish the whole crowd at every event. Bread and circuses and all that.
Nevertheless he decides that just for once on his next birthday his Court Musician must arrange an event where he trains a crowd of people (the chorus) to occupy the front few rows of the arena's seats and chant a spoken birthday ode to him in perfect time.
Question
How does the Court Musician keep everyone in time?
Why does he equip everyone in the chorus with earplugs?
Where is the only place for the Emperor's throne and why?
EDITED to tidy up and make clearer. Apologies if I have changed anything too much.
geometry music science physics
might as well add mathematics/ geometry tag?
– Omega Krypton
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@ Omega Krypton - I think maybe I'll add physics and geometry.
– chasly from UK
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The Emperor is annoyed that the crowd routinely chant out of step at the Empire's largest circular amphitheatre. For example, they are supposed to shout phrases in unison such as "Hail to the Emperor, he is great!" and yet they always sound like a rabble.
All powerful though he may be, he realises he can't punish the whole crowd at every event. Bread and circuses and all that.
Nevertheless he decides that just for once on his next birthday his Court Musician must arrange an event where he trains a crowd of people (the chorus) to occupy the front few rows of the arena's seats and chant a spoken birthday ode to him in perfect time.
Question
How does the Court Musician keep everyone in time?
Why does he equip everyone in the chorus with earplugs?
Where is the only place for the Emperor's throne and why?
EDITED to tidy up and make clearer. Apologies if I have changed anything too much.
geometry music science physics
The Emperor is annoyed that the crowd routinely chant out of step at the Empire's largest circular amphitheatre. For example, they are supposed to shout phrases in unison such as "Hail to the Emperor, he is great!" and yet they always sound like a rabble.
All powerful though he may be, he realises he can't punish the whole crowd at every event. Bread and circuses and all that.
Nevertheless he decides that just for once on his next birthday his Court Musician must arrange an event where he trains a crowd of people (the chorus) to occupy the front few rows of the arena's seats and chant a spoken birthday ode to him in perfect time.
Question
How does the Court Musician keep everyone in time?
Why does he equip everyone in the chorus with earplugs?
Where is the only place for the Emperor's throne and why?
EDITED to tidy up and make clearer. Apologies if I have changed anything too much.
geometry music science physics
geometry music science physics
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might as well add mathematics/ geometry tag?
– Omega Krypton
1 hour ago
@ Omega Krypton - I think maybe I'll add physics and geometry.
– chasly from UK
43 mins ago
add a comment |
might as well add mathematics/ geometry tag?
– Omega Krypton
1 hour ago
@ Omega Krypton - I think maybe I'll add physics and geometry.
– chasly from UK
43 mins ago
might as well add mathematics/ geometry tag?
– Omega Krypton
1 hour ago
might as well add mathematics/ geometry tag?
– Omega Krypton
1 hour ago
@ Omega Krypton - I think maybe I'll add physics and geometry.
– chasly from UK
43 mins ago
@ Omega Krypton - I think maybe I'll add physics and geometry.
– chasly from UK
43 mins ago
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How does the Court Musician keep everyone in time?
All need to be able to see the Court Musician who will act as a choral conductor
Why does he equip everyone in the chorus with earplugs?
So they don't go off the rhythm, misled by the other singers. Each one of them is surrounded by singers which are at ever increasing distance from them. They here a lot of people singing the same theme but slightly delayed. That's why you can see a lot of singers in pop groups covering one of their ears. This helps them hear their own voice so they don't go off tune and the conductor shows them the tempo.
Where is the only place for the Emperor's throne and why?
All singers must be equidistant so ideally the throne will be in the centre of a circle of singers. This way the sound will travel the same time the Emperor and he will hear them all singing in unison.
This is all correct. Can you explain why the problem you discuss in 2, might happen? (In fact will definitely tend to happen)
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
@rhsquared refer to my answer for the last bit
– Omega Krypton
1 hour ago
I'm sure you have this. I suppose I'm asking: If you take the Emperor out of the equation and they stand as you suggest then why would they inevitably cause problems for each other?
– chasly from UK
53 mins ago
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Why the earplugs?
To minimize the error time when the one's voice reaches another's ear. Another type of signal, perhaps visual, is needed.
What you say is correct.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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I'll post this as an answer to my own question. Please note that @rhsquared got the whole thing right. I'm simply adding a commentary.
It is actually impossible for a full arena of people to sound to any listener in the arena as though the crowd are singing or chanting perfectly in time. Even if they are conducted by someone standing in the middle, the sound delay is always there. As @S.M. points out, even the conductor will be affected by the delay between the back seats and the front ones.
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Might be a bit of a weak answer, but
He makes them wear earplugs so that if someone makes a mistake the others won't follow, and even if there aren't any mistakes, the voice of the person next to you will come with a different delay than that of the person standing on the opposite side of the circle; puts the crowd in a circle and sits the emperor in the middle it so he won't hear any delay from the people in the back and it sounds like a "surround" sound instead, all at the same time. About keeping them on time, I don't know, guess the court musician trained them well and we can rely on the quality of his work? Besides since they're all wearing earplugs he can just visually signal them for the tempo.
You're partially there. The 'science' part of the question needs to be a little more explicit.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
P.S. I've just realised from your answer that I missed one of the conditions out. I've added it now. Apologies. I should have thought everything through more carefully before posting.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
Well, I've already given the only position he can be in, which is in the center of a circle formed by the crowd, so all the sound is coming from equally distant places.
– S. M.
58 mins ago
I agree. But the reason for the earplugs is not because someone might make a mistake. Let's suppose they have all memorised everything perfectly and each practised the timing perfectly at home to a metronome.
– chasly from UK
26 mins ago
1
That's why I added the echo, because even if no mistakes were made there'd still be a difference in sound from the person standing next to you in the circle and the person on the opposite side of it, but I wasn't clear enough on it, I suppose. I'll edit my answer even though rhsquared's has already been accepted. Not sure "echo" would even be a correct term at all for what I meant, but it was the first thing that came to mind, my bad there.
– S. M.
24 mins ago
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How does the Court Musician keep everyone in time?
All need to be able to see the Court Musician who will act as a choral conductor
Why does he equip everyone in the chorus with earplugs?
So they don't go off the rhythm, misled by the other singers. Each one of them is surrounded by singers which are at ever increasing distance from them. They here a lot of people singing the same theme but slightly delayed. That's why you can see a lot of singers in pop groups covering one of their ears. This helps them hear their own voice so they don't go off tune and the conductor shows them the tempo.
Where is the only place for the Emperor's throne and why?
All singers must be equidistant so ideally the throne will be in the centre of a circle of singers. This way the sound will travel the same time the Emperor and he will hear them all singing in unison.
This is all correct. Can you explain why the problem you discuss in 2, might happen? (In fact will definitely tend to happen)
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
@rhsquared refer to my answer for the last bit
– Omega Krypton
1 hour ago
I'm sure you have this. I suppose I'm asking: If you take the Emperor out of the equation and they stand as you suggest then why would they inevitably cause problems for each other?
– chasly from UK
53 mins ago
add a comment |
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
How does the Court Musician keep everyone in time?
All need to be able to see the Court Musician who will act as a choral conductor
Why does he equip everyone in the chorus with earplugs?
So they don't go off the rhythm, misled by the other singers. Each one of them is surrounded by singers which are at ever increasing distance from them. They here a lot of people singing the same theme but slightly delayed. That's why you can see a lot of singers in pop groups covering one of their ears. This helps them hear their own voice so they don't go off tune and the conductor shows them the tempo.
Where is the only place for the Emperor's throne and why?
All singers must be equidistant so ideally the throne will be in the centre of a circle of singers. This way the sound will travel the same time the Emperor and he will hear them all singing in unison.
This is all correct. Can you explain why the problem you discuss in 2, might happen? (In fact will definitely tend to happen)
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
@rhsquared refer to my answer for the last bit
– Omega Krypton
1 hour ago
I'm sure you have this. I suppose I'm asking: If you take the Emperor out of the equation and they stand as you suggest then why would they inevitably cause problems for each other?
– chasly from UK
53 mins ago
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up vote
3
down vote
accepted
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
How does the Court Musician keep everyone in time?
All need to be able to see the Court Musician who will act as a choral conductor
Why does he equip everyone in the chorus with earplugs?
So they don't go off the rhythm, misled by the other singers. Each one of them is surrounded by singers which are at ever increasing distance from them. They here a lot of people singing the same theme but slightly delayed. That's why you can see a lot of singers in pop groups covering one of their ears. This helps them hear their own voice so they don't go off tune and the conductor shows them the tempo.
Where is the only place for the Emperor's throne and why?
All singers must be equidistant so ideally the throne will be in the centre of a circle of singers. This way the sound will travel the same time the Emperor and he will hear them all singing in unison.
How does the Court Musician keep everyone in time?
All need to be able to see the Court Musician who will act as a choral conductor
Why does he equip everyone in the chorus with earplugs?
So they don't go off the rhythm, misled by the other singers. Each one of them is surrounded by singers which are at ever increasing distance from them. They here a lot of people singing the same theme but slightly delayed. That's why you can see a lot of singers in pop groups covering one of their ears. This helps them hear their own voice so they don't go off tune and the conductor shows them the tempo.
Where is the only place for the Emperor's throne and why?
All singers must be equidistant so ideally the throne will be in the centre of a circle of singers. This way the sound will travel the same time the Emperor and he will hear them all singing in unison.
edited 55 mins ago
answered 1 hour ago
rhsquared
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This is all correct. Can you explain why the problem you discuss in 2, might happen? (In fact will definitely tend to happen)
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
@rhsquared refer to my answer for the last bit
– Omega Krypton
1 hour ago
I'm sure you have this. I suppose I'm asking: If you take the Emperor out of the equation and they stand as you suggest then why would they inevitably cause problems for each other?
– chasly from UK
53 mins ago
add a comment |
This is all correct. Can you explain why the problem you discuss in 2, might happen? (In fact will definitely tend to happen)
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
@rhsquared refer to my answer for the last bit
– Omega Krypton
1 hour ago
I'm sure you have this. I suppose I'm asking: If you take the Emperor out of the equation and they stand as you suggest then why would they inevitably cause problems for each other?
– chasly from UK
53 mins ago
This is all correct. Can you explain why the problem you discuss in 2, might happen? (In fact will definitely tend to happen)
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
This is all correct. Can you explain why the problem you discuss in 2, might happen? (In fact will definitely tend to happen)
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
@rhsquared refer to my answer for the last bit
– Omega Krypton
1 hour ago
@rhsquared refer to my answer for the last bit
– Omega Krypton
1 hour ago
I'm sure you have this. I suppose I'm asking: If you take the Emperor out of the equation and they stand as you suggest then why would they inevitably cause problems for each other?
– chasly from UK
53 mins ago
I'm sure you have this. I suppose I'm asking: If you take the Emperor out of the equation and they stand as you suggest then why would they inevitably cause problems for each other?
– chasly from UK
53 mins ago
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1
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Partial Answer:
Why the earplugs?
To minimize the error time when the one's voice reaches another's ear. Another type of signal, perhaps visual, is needed.
What you say is correct.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
Partial Answer:
Why the earplugs?
To minimize the error time when the one's voice reaches another's ear. Another type of signal, perhaps visual, is needed.
What you say is correct.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
add a comment |
up vote
1
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up vote
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Partial Answer:
Why the earplugs?
To minimize the error time when the one's voice reaches another's ear. Another type of signal, perhaps visual, is needed.
Partial Answer:
Why the earplugs?
To minimize the error time when the one's voice reaches another's ear. Another type of signal, perhaps visual, is needed.
edited 55 mins ago
answered 1 hour ago
Omega Krypton
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What you say is correct.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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What you say is correct.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
What you say is correct.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
What you say is correct.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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I'll post this as an answer to my own question. Please note that @rhsquared got the whole thing right. I'm simply adding a commentary.
It is actually impossible for a full arena of people to sound to any listener in the arena as though the crowd are singing or chanting perfectly in time. Even if they are conducted by someone standing in the middle, the sound delay is always there. As @S.M. points out, even the conductor will be affected by the delay between the back seats and the front ones.
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
I'll post this as an answer to my own question. Please note that @rhsquared got the whole thing right. I'm simply adding a commentary.
It is actually impossible for a full arena of people to sound to any listener in the arena as though the crowd are singing or chanting perfectly in time. Even if they are conducted by someone standing in the middle, the sound delay is always there. As @S.M. points out, even the conductor will be affected by the delay between the back seats and the front ones.
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
I'll post this as an answer to my own question. Please note that @rhsquared got the whole thing right. I'm simply adding a commentary.
It is actually impossible for a full arena of people to sound to any listener in the arena as though the crowd are singing or chanting perfectly in time. Even if they are conducted by someone standing in the middle, the sound delay is always there. As @S.M. points out, even the conductor will be affected by the delay between the back seats and the front ones.
I'll post this as an answer to my own question. Please note that @rhsquared got the whole thing right. I'm simply adding a commentary.
It is actually impossible for a full arena of people to sound to any listener in the arena as though the crowd are singing or chanting perfectly in time. Even if they are conducted by someone standing in the middle, the sound delay is always there. As @S.M. points out, even the conductor will be affected by the delay between the back seats and the front ones.
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Might be a bit of a weak answer, but
He makes them wear earplugs so that if someone makes a mistake the others won't follow, and even if there aren't any mistakes, the voice of the person next to you will come with a different delay than that of the person standing on the opposite side of the circle; puts the crowd in a circle and sits the emperor in the middle it so he won't hear any delay from the people in the back and it sounds like a "surround" sound instead, all at the same time. About keeping them on time, I don't know, guess the court musician trained them well and we can rely on the quality of his work? Besides since they're all wearing earplugs he can just visually signal them for the tempo.
You're partially there. The 'science' part of the question needs to be a little more explicit.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
P.S. I've just realised from your answer that I missed one of the conditions out. I've added it now. Apologies. I should have thought everything through more carefully before posting.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
Well, I've already given the only position he can be in, which is in the center of a circle formed by the crowd, so all the sound is coming from equally distant places.
– S. M.
58 mins ago
I agree. But the reason for the earplugs is not because someone might make a mistake. Let's suppose they have all memorised everything perfectly and each practised the timing perfectly at home to a metronome.
– chasly from UK
26 mins ago
1
That's why I added the echo, because even if no mistakes were made there'd still be a difference in sound from the person standing next to you in the circle and the person on the opposite side of it, but I wasn't clear enough on it, I suppose. I'll edit my answer even though rhsquared's has already been accepted. Not sure "echo" would even be a correct term at all for what I meant, but it was the first thing that came to mind, my bad there.
– S. M.
24 mins ago
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
Might be a bit of a weak answer, but
He makes them wear earplugs so that if someone makes a mistake the others won't follow, and even if there aren't any mistakes, the voice of the person next to you will come with a different delay than that of the person standing on the opposite side of the circle; puts the crowd in a circle and sits the emperor in the middle it so he won't hear any delay from the people in the back and it sounds like a "surround" sound instead, all at the same time. About keeping them on time, I don't know, guess the court musician trained them well and we can rely on the quality of his work? Besides since they're all wearing earplugs he can just visually signal them for the tempo.
You're partially there. The 'science' part of the question needs to be a little more explicit.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
P.S. I've just realised from your answer that I missed one of the conditions out. I've added it now. Apologies. I should have thought everything through more carefully before posting.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
Well, I've already given the only position he can be in, which is in the center of a circle formed by the crowd, so all the sound is coming from equally distant places.
– S. M.
58 mins ago
I agree. But the reason for the earplugs is not because someone might make a mistake. Let's suppose they have all memorised everything perfectly and each practised the timing perfectly at home to a metronome.
– chasly from UK
26 mins ago
1
That's why I added the echo, because even if no mistakes were made there'd still be a difference in sound from the person standing next to you in the circle and the person on the opposite side of it, but I wasn't clear enough on it, I suppose. I'll edit my answer even though rhsquared's has already been accepted. Not sure "echo" would even be a correct term at all for what I meant, but it was the first thing that came to mind, my bad there.
– S. M.
24 mins ago
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Might be a bit of a weak answer, but
He makes them wear earplugs so that if someone makes a mistake the others won't follow, and even if there aren't any mistakes, the voice of the person next to you will come with a different delay than that of the person standing on the opposite side of the circle; puts the crowd in a circle and sits the emperor in the middle it so he won't hear any delay from the people in the back and it sounds like a "surround" sound instead, all at the same time. About keeping them on time, I don't know, guess the court musician trained them well and we can rely on the quality of his work? Besides since they're all wearing earplugs he can just visually signal them for the tempo.
Might be a bit of a weak answer, but
He makes them wear earplugs so that if someone makes a mistake the others won't follow, and even if there aren't any mistakes, the voice of the person next to you will come with a different delay than that of the person standing on the opposite side of the circle; puts the crowd in a circle and sits the emperor in the middle it so he won't hear any delay from the people in the back and it sounds like a "surround" sound instead, all at the same time. About keeping them on time, I don't know, guess the court musician trained them well and we can rely on the quality of his work? Besides since they're all wearing earplugs he can just visually signal them for the tempo.
edited 22 mins ago
answered 1 hour ago
S. M.
827413
827413
You're partially there. The 'science' part of the question needs to be a little more explicit.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
P.S. I've just realised from your answer that I missed one of the conditions out. I've added it now. Apologies. I should have thought everything through more carefully before posting.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
Well, I've already given the only position he can be in, which is in the center of a circle formed by the crowd, so all the sound is coming from equally distant places.
– S. M.
58 mins ago
I agree. But the reason for the earplugs is not because someone might make a mistake. Let's suppose they have all memorised everything perfectly and each practised the timing perfectly at home to a metronome.
– chasly from UK
26 mins ago
1
That's why I added the echo, because even if no mistakes were made there'd still be a difference in sound from the person standing next to you in the circle and the person on the opposite side of it, but I wasn't clear enough on it, I suppose. I'll edit my answer even though rhsquared's has already been accepted. Not sure "echo" would even be a correct term at all for what I meant, but it was the first thing that came to mind, my bad there.
– S. M.
24 mins ago
add a comment |
You're partially there. The 'science' part of the question needs to be a little more explicit.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
P.S. I've just realised from your answer that I missed one of the conditions out. I've added it now. Apologies. I should have thought everything through more carefully before posting.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
Well, I've already given the only position he can be in, which is in the center of a circle formed by the crowd, so all the sound is coming from equally distant places.
– S. M.
58 mins ago
I agree. But the reason for the earplugs is not because someone might make a mistake. Let's suppose they have all memorised everything perfectly and each practised the timing perfectly at home to a metronome.
– chasly from UK
26 mins ago
1
That's why I added the echo, because even if no mistakes were made there'd still be a difference in sound from the person standing next to you in the circle and the person on the opposite side of it, but I wasn't clear enough on it, I suppose. I'll edit my answer even though rhsquared's has already been accepted. Not sure "echo" would even be a correct term at all for what I meant, but it was the first thing that came to mind, my bad there.
– S. M.
24 mins ago
You're partially there. The 'science' part of the question needs to be a little more explicit.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
You're partially there. The 'science' part of the question needs to be a little more explicit.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
P.S. I've just realised from your answer that I missed one of the conditions out. I've added it now. Apologies. I should have thought everything through more carefully before posting.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
P.S. I've just realised from your answer that I missed one of the conditions out. I've added it now. Apologies. I should have thought everything through more carefully before posting.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
Well, I've already given the only position he can be in, which is in the center of a circle formed by the crowd, so all the sound is coming from equally distant places.
– S. M.
58 mins ago
Well, I've already given the only position he can be in, which is in the center of a circle formed by the crowd, so all the sound is coming from equally distant places.
– S. M.
58 mins ago
I agree. But the reason for the earplugs is not because someone might make a mistake. Let's suppose they have all memorised everything perfectly and each practised the timing perfectly at home to a metronome.
– chasly from UK
26 mins ago
I agree. But the reason for the earplugs is not because someone might make a mistake. Let's suppose they have all memorised everything perfectly and each practised the timing perfectly at home to a metronome.
– chasly from UK
26 mins ago
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That's why I added the echo, because even if no mistakes were made there'd still be a difference in sound from the person standing next to you in the circle and the person on the opposite side of it, but I wasn't clear enough on it, I suppose. I'll edit my answer even though rhsquared's has already been accepted. Not sure "echo" would even be a correct term at all for what I meant, but it was the first thing that came to mind, my bad there.
– S. M.
24 mins ago
That's why I added the echo, because even if no mistakes were made there'd still be a difference in sound from the person standing next to you in the circle and the person on the opposite side of it, but I wasn't clear enough on it, I suppose. I'll edit my answer even though rhsquared's has already been accepted. Not sure "echo" would even be a correct term at all for what I meant, but it was the first thing that came to mind, my bad there.
– S. M.
24 mins ago
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might as well add mathematics/ geometry tag?
– Omega Krypton
1 hour ago
@ Omega Krypton - I think maybe I'll add physics and geometry.
– chasly from UK
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