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Note: This question, though similar, references now dated answers, and upon attempting to download the software from the link provided, my malware detector went crazy.



This is again, a straightforward problem. Occasionally, after rebooting, shutting down, or even logging off of my Windows account, my Desktop Icons will all be re-arranged in a random order. I have two questions regarding this issue:




  1. What causes this to happen? The issue (as far as I can tell) is non-repeatable and seems to be completely random


  2. How can I stop whatever is causing this issue (preferably without using third party-software)?











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  • See this
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    Just FYI... Something else that cause this is the screen resolution changing so if you RDP into the machine remotely and the resolution changes then this can happen.
    – Pimp Juice IT
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Note: This question, though similar, references now dated answers, and upon attempting to download the software from the link provided, my malware detector went crazy.



This is again, a straightforward problem. Occasionally, after rebooting, shutting down, or even logging off of my Windows account, my Desktop Icons will all be re-arranged in a random order. I have two questions regarding this issue:




  1. What causes this to happen? The issue (as far as I can tell) is non-repeatable and seems to be completely random


  2. How can I stop whatever is causing this issue (preferably without using third party-software)?











share|improve this question






















  • See this
    – CodeIt
    Oct 21 '17 at 5:39








  • 1




    Just FYI... Something else that cause this is the screen resolution changing so if you RDP into the machine remotely and the resolution changes then this can happen.
    – Pimp Juice IT
    Oct 21 '17 at 19:24














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Note: This question, though similar, references now dated answers, and upon attempting to download the software from the link provided, my malware detector went crazy.



This is again, a straightforward problem. Occasionally, after rebooting, shutting down, or even logging off of my Windows account, my Desktop Icons will all be re-arranged in a random order. I have two questions regarding this issue:




  1. What causes this to happen? The issue (as far as I can tell) is non-repeatable and seems to be completely random


  2. How can I stop whatever is causing this issue (preferably without using third party-software)?











share|improve this question













Note: This question, though similar, references now dated answers, and upon attempting to download the software from the link provided, my malware detector went crazy.



This is again, a straightforward problem. Occasionally, after rebooting, shutting down, or even logging off of my Windows account, my Desktop Icons will all be re-arranged in a random order. I have two questions regarding this issue:




  1. What causes this to happen? The issue (as far as I can tell) is non-repeatable and seems to be completely random


  2. How can I stop whatever is causing this issue (preferably without using third party-software)?








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  • See this
    – CodeIt
    Oct 21 '17 at 5:39








  • 1




    Just FYI... Something else that cause this is the screen resolution changing so if you RDP into the machine remotely and the resolution changes then this can happen.
    – Pimp Juice IT
    Oct 21 '17 at 19:24


















  • See this
    – CodeIt
    Oct 21 '17 at 5:39








  • 1




    Just FYI... Something else that cause this is the screen resolution changing so if you RDP into the machine remotely and the resolution changes then this can happen.
    – Pimp Juice IT
    Oct 21 '17 at 19:24
















See this
– CodeIt
Oct 21 '17 at 5:39






See this
– CodeIt
Oct 21 '17 at 5:39






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Just FYI... Something else that cause this is the screen resolution changing so if you RDP into the machine remotely and the resolution changes then this can happen.
– Pimp Juice IT
Oct 21 '17 at 19:24




Just FYI... Something else that cause this is the screen resolution changing so if you RDP into the machine remotely and the resolution changes then this can happen.
– Pimp Juice IT
Oct 21 '17 at 19:24










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I was experiencing the exact same issue during the last couple of weeks and decided today to do something about it.



As you correctly say, an internet (or SE) search only gets you solutions valid for older versions of Windows. I still tried several of those, including:




  • Delete desktop.ini

  • Delete the iconcache.db file in appdata/local

  • Delete all iconcache_* files in appdata/local/Microsoft/Windows/Explorer

  • Most of the commands to reinstate corrupted Windows system files, including an in-place upgrade using the media creation tool

  • Reinstall newest graphic card drivers and carefully go through the configuration


I even had a 2 hour support session with a technician from Microsoft. After confirming that there is no quick solution, his first idea was to install a third-party app to block the desktop icons in their position which, like yourself, I didn't want to.



He then noticed that the problem does not appear in a newly created user profile. So his final advice was to just transfer all my files into the new user profile. I probably don't need to tell you that this would have been a real pain to do, seeing as how I would have to manually select which registry entries to take over to the new user. All that just to stop the desktop icons from acting up?



So I kept looking and exploring. Since no fix was available, I tried to better understand where Windows stores the desktop icon positions and came across this helpful SE article: Where does Windows store icon positions?



It explains how Windows (starting with XP?) seems to store icon positions depending on resolution in registry entries under HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsShellBags1Desktop. So, by deleting the DWORD values starting with the name ItemPos, you might be able to force a reset of your Desktop icons if the other solutions I mentioned above don't work.



This did not work for me, though. But I noticed a binary value called IconLayouts in the same registry key, so I researched this further. It seems that this value was only introduced with the Creator's Update, i.e. Windows 10 Version 1703. (Source: MS Technet Forum)



Deleting the IconLayouts value finally solved the issue for me, I can now arrange the icons on my desktop to my liking, and they remain even after a restart.






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    This was a big issue for us because switching or turning off monitors resulted in all windows and desktop icons being moved and rearranged on a single monitor.



    We tried windows and driver settings even registry mods, with no solution also windows support had no solutions.



    You may want to consider a cheap hardware adapter. This device took care of the monitor auto-detect issue for us.



    Look up "monitor detect killer device"



    It works well for us, no issues.






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      I was experiencing the exact same issue during the last couple of weeks and decided today to do something about it.



      As you correctly say, an internet (or SE) search only gets you solutions valid for older versions of Windows. I still tried several of those, including:




      • Delete desktop.ini

      • Delete the iconcache.db file in appdata/local

      • Delete all iconcache_* files in appdata/local/Microsoft/Windows/Explorer

      • Most of the commands to reinstate corrupted Windows system files, including an in-place upgrade using the media creation tool

      • Reinstall newest graphic card drivers and carefully go through the configuration


      I even had a 2 hour support session with a technician from Microsoft. After confirming that there is no quick solution, his first idea was to install a third-party app to block the desktop icons in their position which, like yourself, I didn't want to.



      He then noticed that the problem does not appear in a newly created user profile. So his final advice was to just transfer all my files into the new user profile. I probably don't need to tell you that this would have been a real pain to do, seeing as how I would have to manually select which registry entries to take over to the new user. All that just to stop the desktop icons from acting up?



      So I kept looking and exploring. Since no fix was available, I tried to better understand where Windows stores the desktop icon positions and came across this helpful SE article: Where does Windows store icon positions?



      It explains how Windows (starting with XP?) seems to store icon positions depending on resolution in registry entries under HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsShellBags1Desktop. So, by deleting the DWORD values starting with the name ItemPos, you might be able to force a reset of your Desktop icons if the other solutions I mentioned above don't work.



      This did not work for me, though. But I noticed a binary value called IconLayouts in the same registry key, so I researched this further. It seems that this value was only introduced with the Creator's Update, i.e. Windows 10 Version 1703. (Source: MS Technet Forum)



      Deleting the IconLayouts value finally solved the issue for me, I can now arrange the icons on my desktop to my liking, and they remain even after a restart.






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        I was experiencing the exact same issue during the last couple of weeks and decided today to do something about it.



        As you correctly say, an internet (or SE) search only gets you solutions valid for older versions of Windows. I still tried several of those, including:




        • Delete desktop.ini

        • Delete the iconcache.db file in appdata/local

        • Delete all iconcache_* files in appdata/local/Microsoft/Windows/Explorer

        • Most of the commands to reinstate corrupted Windows system files, including an in-place upgrade using the media creation tool

        • Reinstall newest graphic card drivers and carefully go through the configuration


        I even had a 2 hour support session with a technician from Microsoft. After confirming that there is no quick solution, his first idea was to install a third-party app to block the desktop icons in their position which, like yourself, I didn't want to.



        He then noticed that the problem does not appear in a newly created user profile. So his final advice was to just transfer all my files into the new user profile. I probably don't need to tell you that this would have been a real pain to do, seeing as how I would have to manually select which registry entries to take over to the new user. All that just to stop the desktop icons from acting up?



        So I kept looking and exploring. Since no fix was available, I tried to better understand where Windows stores the desktop icon positions and came across this helpful SE article: Where does Windows store icon positions?



        It explains how Windows (starting with XP?) seems to store icon positions depending on resolution in registry entries under HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsShellBags1Desktop. So, by deleting the DWORD values starting with the name ItemPos, you might be able to force a reset of your Desktop icons if the other solutions I mentioned above don't work.



        This did not work for me, though. But I noticed a binary value called IconLayouts in the same registry key, so I researched this further. It seems that this value was only introduced with the Creator's Update, i.e. Windows 10 Version 1703. (Source: MS Technet Forum)



        Deleting the IconLayouts value finally solved the issue for me, I can now arrange the icons on my desktop to my liking, and they remain even after a restart.






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          I was experiencing the exact same issue during the last couple of weeks and decided today to do something about it.



          As you correctly say, an internet (or SE) search only gets you solutions valid for older versions of Windows. I still tried several of those, including:




          • Delete desktop.ini

          • Delete the iconcache.db file in appdata/local

          • Delete all iconcache_* files in appdata/local/Microsoft/Windows/Explorer

          • Most of the commands to reinstate corrupted Windows system files, including an in-place upgrade using the media creation tool

          • Reinstall newest graphic card drivers and carefully go through the configuration


          I even had a 2 hour support session with a technician from Microsoft. After confirming that there is no quick solution, his first idea was to install a third-party app to block the desktop icons in their position which, like yourself, I didn't want to.



          He then noticed that the problem does not appear in a newly created user profile. So his final advice was to just transfer all my files into the new user profile. I probably don't need to tell you that this would have been a real pain to do, seeing as how I would have to manually select which registry entries to take over to the new user. All that just to stop the desktop icons from acting up?



          So I kept looking and exploring. Since no fix was available, I tried to better understand where Windows stores the desktop icon positions and came across this helpful SE article: Where does Windows store icon positions?



          It explains how Windows (starting with XP?) seems to store icon positions depending on resolution in registry entries under HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsShellBags1Desktop. So, by deleting the DWORD values starting with the name ItemPos, you might be able to force a reset of your Desktop icons if the other solutions I mentioned above don't work.



          This did not work for me, though. But I noticed a binary value called IconLayouts in the same registry key, so I researched this further. It seems that this value was only introduced with the Creator's Update, i.e. Windows 10 Version 1703. (Source: MS Technet Forum)



          Deleting the IconLayouts value finally solved the issue for me, I can now arrange the icons on my desktop to my liking, and they remain even after a restart.






          share|improve this answer












          I was experiencing the exact same issue during the last couple of weeks and decided today to do something about it.



          As you correctly say, an internet (or SE) search only gets you solutions valid for older versions of Windows. I still tried several of those, including:




          • Delete desktop.ini

          • Delete the iconcache.db file in appdata/local

          • Delete all iconcache_* files in appdata/local/Microsoft/Windows/Explorer

          • Most of the commands to reinstate corrupted Windows system files, including an in-place upgrade using the media creation tool

          • Reinstall newest graphic card drivers and carefully go through the configuration


          I even had a 2 hour support session with a technician from Microsoft. After confirming that there is no quick solution, his first idea was to install a third-party app to block the desktop icons in their position which, like yourself, I didn't want to.



          He then noticed that the problem does not appear in a newly created user profile. So his final advice was to just transfer all my files into the new user profile. I probably don't need to tell you that this would have been a real pain to do, seeing as how I would have to manually select which registry entries to take over to the new user. All that just to stop the desktop icons from acting up?



          So I kept looking and exploring. Since no fix was available, I tried to better understand where Windows stores the desktop icon positions and came across this helpful SE article: Where does Windows store icon positions?



          It explains how Windows (starting with XP?) seems to store icon positions depending on resolution in registry entries under HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsShellBags1Desktop. So, by deleting the DWORD values starting with the name ItemPos, you might be able to force a reset of your Desktop icons if the other solutions I mentioned above don't work.



          This did not work for me, though. But I noticed a binary value called IconLayouts in the same registry key, so I researched this further. It seems that this value was only introduced with the Creator's Update, i.e. Windows 10 Version 1703. (Source: MS Technet Forum)



          Deleting the IconLayouts value finally solved the issue for me, I can now arrange the icons on my desktop to my liking, and they remain even after a restart.







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              This was a big issue for us because switching or turning off monitors resulted in all windows and desktop icons being moved and rearranged on a single monitor.



              We tried windows and driver settings even registry mods, with no solution also windows support had no solutions.



              You may want to consider a cheap hardware adapter. This device took care of the monitor auto-detect issue for us.



              Look up "monitor detect killer device"



              It works well for us, no issues.






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                This was a big issue for us because switching or turning off monitors resulted in all windows and desktop icons being moved and rearranged on a single monitor.



                We tried windows and driver settings even registry mods, with no solution also windows support had no solutions.



                You may want to consider a cheap hardware adapter. This device took care of the monitor auto-detect issue for us.



                Look up "monitor detect killer device"



                It works well for us, no issues.






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                  This was a big issue for us because switching or turning off monitors resulted in all windows and desktop icons being moved and rearranged on a single monitor.



                  We tried windows and driver settings even registry mods, with no solution also windows support had no solutions.



                  You may want to consider a cheap hardware adapter. This device took care of the monitor auto-detect issue for us.



                  Look up "monitor detect killer device"



                  It works well for us, no issues.






                  share|improve this answer












                  This was a big issue for us because switching or turning off monitors resulted in all windows and desktop icons being moved and rearranged on a single monitor.



                  We tried windows and driver settings even registry mods, with no solution also windows support had no solutions.



                  You may want to consider a cheap hardware adapter. This device took care of the monitor auto-detect issue for us.



                  Look up "monitor detect killer device"



                  It works well for us, no issues.







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