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I found similar questions, but with no answers.
I don't understand how far both OS are isolated one from each other if:




  1. on a SSD I have a Windows 10

  2. On a USB I have Ubuntu


From security and privacy point of view, can Windows OS interfere with the Ubuntu?
As I am on Ubuntu from the USB now, and can see all Windows folders since the SSD is shown as a volume.
Also If I am on Windows 10 while the USB is plugged, does this make it accessible by the Windows?



If someone can help me please how to safely use both OS without security risks between them?
(till now I have managed this with a virtual machine, but now I can't as low specs laptop)










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    Looks like you need full disk encryption. Without it, each OS can access the filesystem of the other. Encryption will not prevent the deletion of a filesystem, but will prevent unauthorized access to personal files and system settings.

    – mikewhatever
    Mar 1 at 9:36











  • Is that going to really work? I mean if I do the USB full encryption, once I run it will decrypt and the same for the SSD, or I am wrong?

    – brkroot
    Mar 1 at 14:24











  • Well, that's the way it usually works. Obviously, you'd need to have very good reasons for such a setup. I don't know what security and privacy risks you are concerned about, and why, so it is hard to decide if you need to go that far.

    – mikewhatever
    Mar 1 at 14:53











  • In short way, "I work on Linux and play on windows". I am afraid of windows getting infected and compromised and eventually transfer to the Linux. I try to keep very neat and tight environment in Linux, while I use Windows for all entertainment activities, where even the browsers are quite loose.

    – brkroot
    Mar 1 at 15:18








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    Seems like a waste to put just Win 10 on the SSD, it is so much faster if both OS are on their own partition on the SSD. I have Win 10 and Ubuntu both on SSD however I moved Windows "Users" and Ubuntu "home" to my HDD as the SSD is small. I have been dual booting this arrangement for about three years and have never had a problem.

    – C.S.Cameron
    Mar 2 at 6:17


















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I found similar questions, but with no answers.
I don't understand how far both OS are isolated one from each other if:




  1. on a SSD I have a Windows 10

  2. On a USB I have Ubuntu


From security and privacy point of view, can Windows OS interfere with the Ubuntu?
As I am on Ubuntu from the USB now, and can see all Windows folders since the SSD is shown as a volume.
Also If I am on Windows 10 while the USB is plugged, does this make it accessible by the Windows?



If someone can help me please how to safely use both OS without security risks between them?
(till now I have managed this with a virtual machine, but now I can't as low specs laptop)










share|improve this question


















  • 1





    Looks like you need full disk encryption. Without it, each OS can access the filesystem of the other. Encryption will not prevent the deletion of a filesystem, but will prevent unauthorized access to personal files and system settings.

    – mikewhatever
    Mar 1 at 9:36











  • Is that going to really work? I mean if I do the USB full encryption, once I run it will decrypt and the same for the SSD, or I am wrong?

    – brkroot
    Mar 1 at 14:24











  • Well, that's the way it usually works. Obviously, you'd need to have very good reasons for such a setup. I don't know what security and privacy risks you are concerned about, and why, so it is hard to decide if you need to go that far.

    – mikewhatever
    Mar 1 at 14:53











  • In short way, "I work on Linux and play on windows". I am afraid of windows getting infected and compromised and eventually transfer to the Linux. I try to keep very neat and tight environment in Linux, while I use Windows for all entertainment activities, where even the browsers are quite loose.

    – brkroot
    Mar 1 at 15:18








  • 1





    Seems like a waste to put just Win 10 on the SSD, it is so much faster if both OS are on their own partition on the SSD. I have Win 10 and Ubuntu both on SSD however I moved Windows "Users" and Ubuntu "home" to my HDD as the SSD is small. I have been dual booting this arrangement for about three years and have never had a problem.

    – C.S.Cameron
    Mar 2 at 6:17
















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I found similar questions, but with no answers.
I don't understand how far both OS are isolated one from each other if:




  1. on a SSD I have a Windows 10

  2. On a USB I have Ubuntu


From security and privacy point of view, can Windows OS interfere with the Ubuntu?
As I am on Ubuntu from the USB now, and can see all Windows folders since the SSD is shown as a volume.
Also If I am on Windows 10 while the USB is plugged, does this make it accessible by the Windows?



If someone can help me please how to safely use both OS without security risks between them?
(till now I have managed this with a virtual machine, but now I can't as low specs laptop)










share|improve this question














I found similar questions, but with no answers.
I don't understand how far both OS are isolated one from each other if:




  1. on a SSD I have a Windows 10

  2. On a USB I have Ubuntu


From security and privacy point of view, can Windows OS interfere with the Ubuntu?
As I am on Ubuntu from the USB now, and can see all Windows folders since the SSD is shown as a volume.
Also If I am on Windows 10 while the USB is plugged, does this make it accessible by the Windows?



If someone can help me please how to safely use both OS without security risks between them?
(till now I have managed this with a virtual machine, but now I can't as low specs laptop)







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    Looks like you need full disk encryption. Without it, each OS can access the filesystem of the other. Encryption will not prevent the deletion of a filesystem, but will prevent unauthorized access to personal files and system settings.

    – mikewhatever
    Mar 1 at 9:36











  • Is that going to really work? I mean if I do the USB full encryption, once I run it will decrypt and the same for the SSD, or I am wrong?

    – brkroot
    Mar 1 at 14:24











  • Well, that's the way it usually works. Obviously, you'd need to have very good reasons for such a setup. I don't know what security and privacy risks you are concerned about, and why, so it is hard to decide if you need to go that far.

    – mikewhatever
    Mar 1 at 14:53











  • In short way, "I work on Linux and play on windows". I am afraid of windows getting infected and compromised and eventually transfer to the Linux. I try to keep very neat and tight environment in Linux, while I use Windows for all entertainment activities, where even the browsers are quite loose.

    – brkroot
    Mar 1 at 15:18








  • 1





    Seems like a waste to put just Win 10 on the SSD, it is so much faster if both OS are on their own partition on the SSD. I have Win 10 and Ubuntu both on SSD however I moved Windows "Users" and Ubuntu "home" to my HDD as the SSD is small. I have been dual booting this arrangement for about three years and have never had a problem.

    – C.S.Cameron
    Mar 2 at 6:17
















  • 1





    Looks like you need full disk encryption. Without it, each OS can access the filesystem of the other. Encryption will not prevent the deletion of a filesystem, but will prevent unauthorized access to personal files and system settings.

    – mikewhatever
    Mar 1 at 9:36











  • Is that going to really work? I mean if I do the USB full encryption, once I run it will decrypt and the same for the SSD, or I am wrong?

    – brkroot
    Mar 1 at 14:24











  • Well, that's the way it usually works. Obviously, you'd need to have very good reasons for such a setup. I don't know what security and privacy risks you are concerned about, and why, so it is hard to decide if you need to go that far.

    – mikewhatever
    Mar 1 at 14:53











  • In short way, "I work on Linux and play on windows". I am afraid of windows getting infected and compromised and eventually transfer to the Linux. I try to keep very neat and tight environment in Linux, while I use Windows for all entertainment activities, where even the browsers are quite loose.

    – brkroot
    Mar 1 at 15:18








  • 1





    Seems like a waste to put just Win 10 on the SSD, it is so much faster if both OS are on their own partition on the SSD. I have Win 10 and Ubuntu both on SSD however I moved Windows "Users" and Ubuntu "home" to my HDD as the SSD is small. I have been dual booting this arrangement for about three years and have never had a problem.

    – C.S.Cameron
    Mar 2 at 6:17










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Looks like you need full disk encryption. Without it, each OS can access the filesystem of the other. Encryption will not prevent the deletion of a filesystem, but will prevent unauthorized access to personal files and system settings.

– mikewhatever
Mar 1 at 9:36





Looks like you need full disk encryption. Without it, each OS can access the filesystem of the other. Encryption will not prevent the deletion of a filesystem, but will prevent unauthorized access to personal files and system settings.

– mikewhatever
Mar 1 at 9:36













Is that going to really work? I mean if I do the USB full encryption, once I run it will decrypt and the same for the SSD, or I am wrong?

– brkroot
Mar 1 at 14:24





Is that going to really work? I mean if I do the USB full encryption, once I run it will decrypt and the same for the SSD, or I am wrong?

– brkroot
Mar 1 at 14:24













Well, that's the way it usually works. Obviously, you'd need to have very good reasons for such a setup. I don't know what security and privacy risks you are concerned about, and why, so it is hard to decide if you need to go that far.

– mikewhatever
Mar 1 at 14:53





Well, that's the way it usually works. Obviously, you'd need to have very good reasons for such a setup. I don't know what security and privacy risks you are concerned about, and why, so it is hard to decide if you need to go that far.

– mikewhatever
Mar 1 at 14:53













In short way, "I work on Linux and play on windows". I am afraid of windows getting infected and compromised and eventually transfer to the Linux. I try to keep very neat and tight environment in Linux, while I use Windows for all entertainment activities, where even the browsers are quite loose.

– brkroot
Mar 1 at 15:18







In short way, "I work on Linux and play on windows". I am afraid of windows getting infected and compromised and eventually transfer to the Linux. I try to keep very neat and tight environment in Linux, while I use Windows for all entertainment activities, where even the browsers are quite loose.

– brkroot
Mar 1 at 15:18






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Seems like a waste to put just Win 10 on the SSD, it is so much faster if both OS are on their own partition on the SSD. I have Win 10 and Ubuntu both on SSD however I moved Windows "Users" and Ubuntu "home" to my HDD as the SSD is small. I have been dual booting this arrangement for about three years and have never had a problem.

– C.S.Cameron
Mar 2 at 6:17







Seems like a waste to put just Win 10 on the SSD, it is so much faster if both OS are on their own partition on the SSD. I have Win 10 and Ubuntu both on SSD however I moved Windows "Users" and Ubuntu "home" to my HDD as the SSD is small. I have been dual booting this arrangement for about three years and have never had a problem.

– C.S.Cameron
Mar 2 at 6:17












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Windows, by default, does not have the capabilities to view Linux filesystems (Ext4 formatted). Linux, however, can view both NTFS and FAT32, the standards for Windows. Unless the concern is being able to access the disk at all, the data on the Linux disk shouldn't be changed by Windows unless someone explicitly intends to, either by formatting the disk or installing the necessary software to view/change ext4 filesystems.



As for the reverse, Windows by default does not perform a full shutdown, opting instead to enter something called a "hybrid sleep", which decreases boot times. A side effect of this is that it does not unmount disks it uses; you can view this disk from your Linux install, but if you try to make changes it won't let you, because unless you changed this setting in Windows the drive is mounted as "read only".



If the goal is to prevent any interaction between the devices whatsoever, pretty much the only option is encryption. Bitlocker for Windows, but a reinstall is required for Ubuntu. Worth noting that this still does not prevent formatting, just access to the contents of the hard drive.






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    • One simple way to protect your Ubuntu system is to unplug your USB drive with Ubuntu before you boot into Windows.


    • There should be no big risk of infection from Windows to Ubuntu, so unless you need an extra high security level, I don't think this is a problem. (When I dual booted some years ago, I had Ubuntu in the same hard disk drive as Windows, and there were no problems.)



    • There could be another risk: Some major upgrades of Windows may hijack the boot system, so that you can no longer boot into Ubuntu. There are fairly easy repair methods for this problem, when you know how to do it. See for example the following links,




      • help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - helps you understand


      • help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Fixing_a_Broken_System - helps you understand


      • help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair - the easy way









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      Windows, by default, does not have the capabilities to view Linux filesystems (Ext4 formatted). Linux, however, can view both NTFS and FAT32, the standards for Windows. Unless the concern is being able to access the disk at all, the data on the Linux disk shouldn't be changed by Windows unless someone explicitly intends to, either by formatting the disk or installing the necessary software to view/change ext4 filesystems.



      As for the reverse, Windows by default does not perform a full shutdown, opting instead to enter something called a "hybrid sleep", which decreases boot times. A side effect of this is that it does not unmount disks it uses; you can view this disk from your Linux install, but if you try to make changes it won't let you, because unless you changed this setting in Windows the drive is mounted as "read only".



      If the goal is to prevent any interaction between the devices whatsoever, pretty much the only option is encryption. Bitlocker for Windows, but a reinstall is required for Ubuntu. Worth noting that this still does not prevent formatting, just access to the contents of the hard drive.






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        Windows, by default, does not have the capabilities to view Linux filesystems (Ext4 formatted). Linux, however, can view both NTFS and FAT32, the standards for Windows. Unless the concern is being able to access the disk at all, the data on the Linux disk shouldn't be changed by Windows unless someone explicitly intends to, either by formatting the disk or installing the necessary software to view/change ext4 filesystems.



        As for the reverse, Windows by default does not perform a full shutdown, opting instead to enter something called a "hybrid sleep", which decreases boot times. A side effect of this is that it does not unmount disks it uses; you can view this disk from your Linux install, but if you try to make changes it won't let you, because unless you changed this setting in Windows the drive is mounted as "read only".



        If the goal is to prevent any interaction between the devices whatsoever, pretty much the only option is encryption. Bitlocker for Windows, but a reinstall is required for Ubuntu. Worth noting that this still does not prevent formatting, just access to the contents of the hard drive.






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          Windows, by default, does not have the capabilities to view Linux filesystems (Ext4 formatted). Linux, however, can view both NTFS and FAT32, the standards for Windows. Unless the concern is being able to access the disk at all, the data on the Linux disk shouldn't be changed by Windows unless someone explicitly intends to, either by formatting the disk or installing the necessary software to view/change ext4 filesystems.



          As for the reverse, Windows by default does not perform a full shutdown, opting instead to enter something called a "hybrid sleep", which decreases boot times. A side effect of this is that it does not unmount disks it uses; you can view this disk from your Linux install, but if you try to make changes it won't let you, because unless you changed this setting in Windows the drive is mounted as "read only".



          If the goal is to prevent any interaction between the devices whatsoever, pretty much the only option is encryption. Bitlocker for Windows, but a reinstall is required for Ubuntu. Worth noting that this still does not prevent formatting, just access to the contents of the hard drive.






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          Windows, by default, does not have the capabilities to view Linux filesystems (Ext4 formatted). Linux, however, can view both NTFS and FAT32, the standards for Windows. Unless the concern is being able to access the disk at all, the data on the Linux disk shouldn't be changed by Windows unless someone explicitly intends to, either by formatting the disk or installing the necessary software to view/change ext4 filesystems.



          As for the reverse, Windows by default does not perform a full shutdown, opting instead to enter something called a "hybrid sleep", which decreases boot times. A side effect of this is that it does not unmount disks it uses; you can view this disk from your Linux install, but if you try to make changes it won't let you, because unless you changed this setting in Windows the drive is mounted as "read only".



          If the goal is to prevent any interaction between the devices whatsoever, pretty much the only option is encryption. Bitlocker for Windows, but a reinstall is required for Ubuntu. Worth noting that this still does not prevent formatting, just access to the contents of the hard drive.







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              • One simple way to protect your Ubuntu system is to unplug your USB drive with Ubuntu before you boot into Windows.


              • There should be no big risk of infection from Windows to Ubuntu, so unless you need an extra high security level, I don't think this is a problem. (When I dual booted some years ago, I had Ubuntu in the same hard disk drive as Windows, and there were no problems.)



              • There could be another risk: Some major upgrades of Windows may hijack the boot system, so that you can no longer boot into Ubuntu. There are fairly easy repair methods for this problem, when you know how to do it. See for example the following links,




                • help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - helps you understand


                • help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Fixing_a_Broken_System - helps you understand


                • help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair - the easy way









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                • One simple way to protect your Ubuntu system is to unplug your USB drive with Ubuntu before you boot into Windows.


                • There should be no big risk of infection from Windows to Ubuntu, so unless you need an extra high security level, I don't think this is a problem. (When I dual booted some years ago, I had Ubuntu in the same hard disk drive as Windows, and there were no problems.)



                • There could be another risk: Some major upgrades of Windows may hijack the boot system, so that you can no longer boot into Ubuntu. There are fairly easy repair methods for this problem, when you know how to do it. See for example the following links,




                  • help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - helps you understand


                  • help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Fixing_a_Broken_System - helps you understand


                  • help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair - the easy way









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                  • One simple way to protect your Ubuntu system is to unplug your USB drive with Ubuntu before you boot into Windows.


                  • There should be no big risk of infection from Windows to Ubuntu, so unless you need an extra high security level, I don't think this is a problem. (When I dual booted some years ago, I had Ubuntu in the same hard disk drive as Windows, and there were no problems.)



                  • There could be another risk: Some major upgrades of Windows may hijack the boot system, so that you can no longer boot into Ubuntu. There are fairly easy repair methods for this problem, when you know how to do it. See for example the following links,




                    • help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - helps you understand


                    • help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Fixing_a_Broken_System - helps you understand


                    • help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair - the easy way









                  share|improve this answer














                  • One simple way to protect your Ubuntu system is to unplug your USB drive with Ubuntu before you boot into Windows.


                  • There should be no big risk of infection from Windows to Ubuntu, so unless you need an extra high security level, I don't think this is a problem. (When I dual booted some years ago, I had Ubuntu in the same hard disk drive as Windows, and there were no problems.)



                  • There could be another risk: Some major upgrades of Windows may hijack the boot system, so that you can no longer boot into Ubuntu. There are fairly easy repair methods for this problem, when you know how to do it. See for example the following links,




                    • help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - helps you understand


                    • help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Fixing_a_Broken_System - helps you understand


                    • help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair - the easy way










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