Can a simulacrum “regain” HP by being True Polymorphed into a creature that can do so normally?
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If a simulacrum is polymorphed through True Polymorph into a creature that can regain hit points normally, can the simulacrum regain hit points while polymorphed in that way?
If the answer is no, can it be True Polymorphed again into a creature with current and maximum HP higher then the original simulacrum?
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If a simulacrum is polymorphed through True Polymorph into a creature that can regain hit points normally, can the simulacrum regain hit points while polymorphed in that way?
If the answer is no, can it be True Polymorphed again into a creature with current and maximum HP higher then the original simulacrum?
dnd-5e spells polymorph dnd-adventurers-league
asked 5 hours ago
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Could you include an edition tag? I also don't see why the dnd-adventurers-league is relevant.
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– Someone_Evil
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Given the AL tag, are you playing D&D 5e? If so, you should edit the [dnd-5e] tag into your post.
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@Someone_Evil AL tag might be relevant if there are, or ever woll be, specific limitations about that matter in organized play. And if there are none, saying it explicitly would help, too. Thus, I believe that al tag might be useful, or at least not harmful.
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– Mołot
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Related: Simulacrum with regeneration
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If a simulacrum is polymorphed through True Polymorph into a creature that can regain hit points normally, can the simulacrum regain hit points while polymorphed in that way?
If the answer is no, can it be True Polymorphed again into a creature with current and maximum HP higher then the original simulacrum?
dnd-5e spells polymorph dnd-adventurers-league
asked 5 hours ago
AioaljkAioaljk
2096
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If a simulacrum is polymorphed through True Polymorph into a creature that can regain hit points normally, can the simulacrum regain hit points while polymorphed in that way?
If the answer is no, can it be True Polymorphed again into a creature with current and maximum HP higher then the original simulacrum?
dnd-5e spells polymorph dnd-adventurers-league
dnd-5e spells polymorph dnd-adventurers-league
asked 5 hours ago
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asked 5 hours ago
AioaljkAioaljk
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Could you include an edition tag? I also don't see why the dnd-adventurers-league is relevant.
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– Someone_Evil
5 hours ago
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Given the AL tag, are you playing D&D 5e? If so, you should edit the [dnd-5e] tag into your post.
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– V2Blast
5 hours ago
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@Someone_Evil AL tag might be relevant if there are, or ever woll be, specific limitations about that matter in organized play. And if there are none, saying it explicitly would help, too. Thus, I believe that al tag might be useful, or at least not harmful.
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– Mołot
5 hours ago
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Related: Simulacrum with regeneration
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– Rubiksmoose
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Could you include an edition tag? I also don't see why the dnd-adventurers-league is relevant.
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– Someone_Evil
5 hours ago
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Given the AL tag, are you playing D&D 5e? If so, you should edit the [dnd-5e] tag into your post.
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– V2Blast
5 hours ago
1
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@Someone_Evil AL tag might be relevant if there are, or ever woll be, specific limitations about that matter in organized play. And if there are none, saying it explicitly would help, too. Thus, I believe that al tag might be useful, or at least not harmful.
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– Mołot
5 hours ago
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Related: Simulacrum with regeneration
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– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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Could you include an edition tag? I also don't see why the dnd-adventurers-league is relevant.
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– Someone_Evil
5 hours ago
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Could you include an edition tag? I also don't see why the dnd-adventurers-league is relevant.
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– Someone_Evil
5 hours ago
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Given the AL tag, are you playing D&D 5e? If so, you should edit the [dnd-5e] tag into your post.
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– V2Blast
5 hours ago
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Given the AL tag, are you playing D&D 5e? If so, you should edit the [dnd-5e] tag into your post.
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– V2Blast
5 hours ago
1
1
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@Someone_Evil AL tag might be relevant if there are, or ever woll be, specific limitations about that matter in organized play. And if there are none, saying it explicitly would help, too. Thus, I believe that al tag might be useful, or at least not harmful.
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– Mołot
5 hours ago
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@Someone_Evil AL tag might be relevant if there are, or ever woll be, specific limitations about that matter in organized play. And if there are none, saying it explicitly would help, too. Thus, I believe that al tag might be useful, or at least not harmful.
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– Mołot
5 hours ago
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Related: Simulacrum with regeneration
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Related: Simulacrum with regeneration
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Yes, and no.
The simulacrum's statistics are replaced. This means you take whatever form of record sheet you're using for the simulacrum, put it aside, and grab the stat block of the creature you've polymorphed it into and use that while the polymorph effect persists.
The target's game statistics, including mental ability scores, are replaced by the statistics of the chosen beast. It retains its alignment and personality.
While polymorphed1, the creature is a tyrannosaur, a giant ape, or what have you. If that creature has regeneration, it can regenerate because it is that creature. For the duration of the polymorph effect, the simulacrum effectively does not exist, so none of it's restrictions apply to the new replacement.
The target assumes the hit points of its new form. When it reverts to its normal form, the creature returns to the number of hit points it had before it transformed.
When the polymorph effect expires and the creature resumes being a simulacrum, it has however many hit points it had before the polymorph. Of course, that's how it works for any other creature, too.
Note
Adventure's League is not a factor here. DDAL DM's are allowed to adjudicate ambiguities, and there are none here.
1Or True Polymorphed. For the purposes of this conversation, the only difference is the range of creatures you can pick for the transformation. You'll probably need TP over regular P to find something with Regeneration. I can't think of any beasts that have it, off the top of my head.
answered 1 hour ago
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TP has the interesting feature that it becomes permanent if you choose not to end it before the regular duration expires. Could be useful with a simulacrum!
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– Peter Cordes
43 mins ago
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@PeterCordes I'm not sure useful is the right word. Why bother TPing a simulacrum, when you could have started with... I dunno... a roll of TP. :)
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– T.J.L.
41 mins ago
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Object->creature is limited to CR9 or lower. Creature->Creature is limited to the CR or level of the original creature. Simulacrum counts as a creature of the same level as the creature you duplicate, so up to lvl 20. Thus it can become an Adult Dragon for example.
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Yes, and no.
The simulacrum's statistics are replaced. This means you take whatever form of record sheet you're using for the simulacrum, put it aside, and grab the stat block of the creature you've polymorphed it into and use that while the polymorph effect persists.
The target's game statistics, including mental ability scores, are replaced by the statistics of the chosen beast. It retains its alignment and personality.
While polymorphed1, the creature is a tyrannosaur, a giant ape, or what have you. If that creature has regeneration, it can regenerate because it is that creature. For the duration of the polymorph effect, the simulacrum effectively does not exist, so none of it's restrictions apply to the new replacement.
The target assumes the hit points of its new form. When it reverts to its normal form, the creature returns to the number of hit points it had before it transformed.
When the polymorph effect expires and the creature resumes being a simulacrum, it has however many hit points it had before the polymorph. Of course, that's how it works for any other creature, too.
Note
Adventure's League is not a factor here. DDAL DM's are allowed to adjudicate ambiguities, and there are none here.
1Or True Polymorphed. For the purposes of this conversation, the only difference is the range of creatures you can pick for the transformation. You'll probably need TP over regular P to find something with Regeneration. I can't think of any beasts that have it, off the top of my head.
answered 1 hour ago
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TP has the interesting feature that it becomes permanent if you choose not to end it before the regular duration expires. Could be useful with a simulacrum!
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– Peter Cordes
43 mins ago
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@PeterCordes I'm not sure useful is the right word. Why bother TPing a simulacrum, when you could have started with... I dunno... a roll of TP. :)
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– T.J.L.
41 mins ago
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Object->creature is limited to CR9 or lower. Creature->Creature is limited to the CR or level of the original creature. Simulacrum counts as a creature of the same level as the creature you duplicate, so up to lvl 20. Thus it can become an Adult Dragon for example.
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– Peter Cordes
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Yes, and no.
The simulacrum's statistics are replaced. This means you take whatever form of record sheet you're using for the simulacrum, put it aside, and grab the stat block of the creature you've polymorphed it into and use that while the polymorph effect persists.
The target's game statistics, including mental ability scores, are replaced by the statistics of the chosen beast. It retains its alignment and personality.
While polymorphed1, the creature is a tyrannosaur, a giant ape, or what have you. If that creature has regeneration, it can regenerate because it is that creature. For the duration of the polymorph effect, the simulacrum effectively does not exist, so none of it's restrictions apply to the new replacement.
The target assumes the hit points of its new form. When it reverts to its normal form, the creature returns to the number of hit points it had before it transformed.
When the polymorph effect expires and the creature resumes being a simulacrum, it has however many hit points it had before the polymorph. Of course, that's how it works for any other creature, too.
Note
Adventure's League is not a factor here. DDAL DM's are allowed to adjudicate ambiguities, and there are none here.
1Or True Polymorphed. For the purposes of this conversation, the only difference is the range of creatures you can pick for the transformation. You'll probably need TP over regular P to find something with Regeneration. I can't think of any beasts that have it, off the top of my head.
answered 1 hour ago
T.J.L.T.J.L.
33.7k5120178
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TP has the interesting feature that it becomes permanent if you choose not to end it before the regular duration expires. Could be useful with a simulacrum!
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– Peter Cordes
43 mins ago
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@PeterCordes I'm not sure useful is the right word. Why bother TPing a simulacrum, when you could have started with... I dunno... a roll of TP. :)
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– T.J.L.
41 mins ago
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Object->creature is limited to CR9 or lower. Creature->Creature is limited to the CR or level of the original creature. Simulacrum counts as a creature of the same level as the creature you duplicate, so up to lvl 20. Thus it can become an Adult Dragon for example.
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– Peter Cordes
35 mins ago
add a comment |
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Yes, and no.
The simulacrum's statistics are replaced. This means you take whatever form of record sheet you're using for the simulacrum, put it aside, and grab the stat block of the creature you've polymorphed it into and use that while the polymorph effect persists.
The target's game statistics, including mental ability scores, are replaced by the statistics of the chosen beast. It retains its alignment and personality.
While polymorphed1, the creature is a tyrannosaur, a giant ape, or what have you. If that creature has regeneration, it can regenerate because it is that creature. For the duration of the polymorph effect, the simulacrum effectively does not exist, so none of it's restrictions apply to the new replacement.
The target assumes the hit points of its new form. When it reverts to its normal form, the creature returns to the number of hit points it had before it transformed.
When the polymorph effect expires and the creature resumes being a simulacrum, it has however many hit points it had before the polymorph. Of course, that's how it works for any other creature, too.
Note
Adventure's League is not a factor here. DDAL DM's are allowed to adjudicate ambiguities, and there are none here.
1Or True Polymorphed. For the purposes of this conversation, the only difference is the range of creatures you can pick for the transformation. You'll probably need TP over regular P to find something with Regeneration. I can't think of any beasts that have it, off the top of my head.
answered 1 hour ago
T.J.L.T.J.L.
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Yes, and no.
The simulacrum's statistics are replaced. This means you take whatever form of record sheet you're using for the simulacrum, put it aside, and grab the stat block of the creature you've polymorphed it into and use that while the polymorph effect persists.
The target's game statistics, including mental ability scores, are replaced by the statistics of the chosen beast. It retains its alignment and personality.
While polymorphed1, the creature is a tyrannosaur, a giant ape, or what have you. If that creature has regeneration, it can regenerate because it is that creature. For the duration of the polymorph effect, the simulacrum effectively does not exist, so none of it's restrictions apply to the new replacement.
The target assumes the hit points of its new form. When it reverts to its normal form, the creature returns to the number of hit points it had before it transformed.
When the polymorph effect expires and the creature resumes being a simulacrum, it has however many hit points it had before the polymorph. Of course, that's how it works for any other creature, too.
Note
Adventure's League is not a factor here. DDAL DM's are allowed to adjudicate ambiguities, and there are none here.
1Or True Polymorphed. For the purposes of this conversation, the only difference is the range of creatures you can pick for the transformation. You'll probably need TP over regular P to find something with Regeneration. I can't think of any beasts that have it, off the top of my head.
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TP has the interesting feature that it becomes permanent if you choose not to end it before the regular duration expires. Could be useful with a simulacrum!
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– Peter Cordes
43 mins ago
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@PeterCordes I'm not sure useful is the right word. Why bother TPing a simulacrum, when you could have started with... I dunno... a roll of TP. :)
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– T.J.L.
41 mins ago
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Object->creature is limited to CR9 or lower. Creature->Creature is limited to the CR or level of the original creature. Simulacrum counts as a creature of the same level as the creature you duplicate, so up to lvl 20. Thus it can become an Adult Dragon for example.
$endgroup$
– Peter Cordes
35 mins ago
add a comment |
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TP has the interesting feature that it becomes permanent if you choose not to end it before the regular duration expires. Could be useful with a simulacrum!
$endgroup$
– Peter Cordes
43 mins ago
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@PeterCordes I'm not sure useful is the right word. Why bother TPing a simulacrum, when you could have started with... I dunno... a roll of TP. :)
$endgroup$
– T.J.L.
41 mins ago
$begingroup$
Object->creature is limited to CR9 or lower. Creature->Creature is limited to the CR or level of the original creature. Simulacrum counts as a creature of the same level as the creature you duplicate, so up to lvl 20. Thus it can become an Adult Dragon for example.
$endgroup$
– Peter Cordes
35 mins ago
$begingroup$
TP has the interesting feature that it becomes permanent if you choose not to end it before the regular duration expires. Could be useful with a simulacrum!
$endgroup$
– Peter Cordes
43 mins ago
$begingroup$
TP has the interesting feature that it becomes permanent if you choose not to end it before the regular duration expires. Could be useful with a simulacrum!
$endgroup$
– Peter Cordes
43 mins ago
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@PeterCordes I'm not sure useful is the right word. Why bother TPing a simulacrum, when you could have started with... I dunno... a roll of TP. :)
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– T.J.L.
41 mins ago
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@PeterCordes I'm not sure useful is the right word. Why bother TPing a simulacrum, when you could have started with... I dunno... a roll of TP. :)
$endgroup$
– T.J.L.
41 mins ago
$begingroup$
Object->creature is limited to CR9 or lower. Creature->Creature is limited to the CR or level of the original creature. Simulacrum counts as a creature of the same level as the creature you duplicate, so up to lvl 20. Thus it can become an Adult Dragon for example.
$endgroup$
– Peter Cordes
35 mins ago
$begingroup$
Object->creature is limited to CR9 or lower. Creature->Creature is limited to the CR or level of the original creature. Simulacrum counts as a creature of the same level as the creature you duplicate, so up to lvl 20. Thus it can become an Adult Dragon for example.
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– Peter Cordes
35 mins ago
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Could you include an edition tag? I also don't see why the dnd-adventurers-league is relevant.
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– Someone_Evil
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Given the AL tag, are you playing D&D 5e? If so, you should edit the [dnd-5e] tag into your post.
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– V2Blast
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@Someone_Evil AL tag might be relevant if there are, or ever woll be, specific limitations about that matter in organized play. And if there are none, saying it explicitly would help, too. Thus, I believe that al tag might be useful, or at least not harmful.
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– Mołot
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Related: Simulacrum with regeneration
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– Rubiksmoose
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