Associativity in splitting of compound names











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Pre-question (answered here): Is there a compound word A|B with original components A and B that might be slit as A'|B' if A borrows some letters from B (or the other way around) to form A', and B' keeps the rest?



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Is there a word with three components A|B|C such that diverse associativity interpretations could lead to alternative meanings? Like (A|B)|C being different from A|(B|C) ? Or reorganizing
A'|B'|C' by creating new words with order and letter conservation?










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    I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
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    Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
    – Marzipanherz
    16 hours ago










  • Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
    – Marzipanherz
    16 hours ago






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    @Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
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    I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
    – Marzipanherz
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Pre-question (answered here): Is there a compound word A|B with original components A and B that might be slit as A'|B' if A borrows some letters from B (or the other way around) to form A', and B' keeps the rest?



With that background:



Is there a word with three components A|B|C such that diverse associativity interpretations could lead to alternative meanings? Like (A|B)|C being different from A|(B|C) ? Or reorganizing
A'|B'|C' by creating new words with order and letter conservation?










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    I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
    – Marzipanherz
    16 hours ago






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    Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
    – Marzipanherz
    16 hours ago










  • Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
    – Marzipanherz
    16 hours ago






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    @Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
    – c.p.
    16 hours ago








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    I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
    – Marzipanherz
    14 hours ago













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Pre-question (answered here): Is there a compound word A|B with original components A and B that might be slit as A'|B' if A borrows some letters from B (or the other way around) to form A', and B' keeps the rest?



With that background:



Is there a word with three components A|B|C such that diverse associativity interpretations could lead to alternative meanings? Like (A|B)|C being different from A|(B|C) ? Or reorganizing
A'|B'|C' by creating new words with order and letter conservation?










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Pre-question (answered here): Is there a compound word A|B with original components A and B that might be slit as A'|B' if A borrows some letters from B (or the other way around) to form A', and B' keeps the rest?



With that background:



Is there a word with three components A|B|C such that diverse associativity interpretations could lead to alternative meanings? Like (A|B)|C being different from A|(B|C) ? Or reorganizing
A'|B'|C' by creating new words with order and letter conservation?







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    I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
    – Marzipanherz
    16 hours ago






  • 1




    Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
    – Marzipanherz
    16 hours ago










  • Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
    – Marzipanherz
    16 hours ago






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    @Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
    – c.p.
    16 hours ago








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    I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
    – Marzipanherz
    14 hours ago














  • 1




    I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
    – Marzipanherz
    16 hours ago






  • 1




    Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
    – Marzipanherz
    16 hours ago










  • Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
    – Marzipanherz
    16 hours ago






  • 1




    @Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
    – c.p.
    16 hours ago








  • 1




    I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
    – Marzipanherz
    14 hours ago








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I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
– Marzipanherz
16 hours ago




I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
– Marzipanherz
16 hours ago




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1




Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
– Marzipanherz
16 hours ago




Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
– Marzipanherz
16 hours ago












Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
– Marzipanherz
16 hours ago




Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
– Marzipanherz
16 hours ago




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@Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
– c.p.
16 hours ago






@Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
– c.p.
16 hours ago






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I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
– Marzipanherz
14 hours ago




I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
– Marzipanherz
14 hours ago










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Example for a word with 3 components:




Die Fensterheberzeit (die Zeit, die der Heber für eine vollständige
Öffnung oder Schließung benötigt) liegt bei diesem Fahrzeug bei gerade
einmal 1,2 Sekunden.



Wer kurbelt denn heute noch, wir leben doch längst in einer Fensterheberzeit!







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    Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
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  • @c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
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A classical example for such a word is Staubecken which can be read as Stau-becken (from stauen and Becken) or Staub-ecken (from Staub and Ecke).



However, the two possibilites differ in number, as the former is singular and the latter is plural.






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  • I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
    – Janka
    14 hours ago












  • @Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
    – rexkogitans
    10 hours ago










  • Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
    – Janka
    10 hours ago










  • But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
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Example for a word with 3 components:




Die Fensterheberzeit (die Zeit, die der Heber für eine vollständige
Öffnung oder Schließung benötigt) liegt bei diesem Fahrzeug bei gerade
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Wer kurbelt denn heute noch, wir leben doch längst in einer Fensterheberzeit!







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    Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
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  • @c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
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Example for a word with 3 components:




Die Fensterheberzeit (die Zeit, die der Heber für eine vollständige
Öffnung oder Schließung benötigt) liegt bei diesem Fahrzeug bei gerade
einmal 1,2 Sekunden.



Wer kurbelt denn heute noch, wir leben doch längst in einer Fensterheberzeit!







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    Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
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  • @c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
    – Pollitzer
    12 hours ago













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Example for a word with 3 components:




Die Fensterheberzeit (die Zeit, die der Heber für eine vollständige
Öffnung oder Schließung benötigt) liegt bei diesem Fahrzeug bei gerade
einmal 1,2 Sekunden.



Wer kurbelt denn heute noch, wir leben doch längst in einer Fensterheberzeit!







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Example for a word with 3 components:




Die Fensterheberzeit (die Zeit, die der Heber für eine vollständige
Öffnung oder Schließung benötigt) liegt bei diesem Fahrzeug bei gerade
einmal 1,2 Sekunden.



Wer kurbelt denn heute noch, wir leben doch längst in einer Fensterheberzeit!








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    Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
    – c.p.
    13 hours ago












  • @c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
    – Pollitzer
    12 hours ago














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    Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
    – c.p.
    13 hours ago












  • @c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
    – Pollitzer
    12 hours ago








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Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
– c.p.
13 hours ago






Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
– c.p.
13 hours ago














@c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
– Pollitzer
12 hours ago




@c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
– Pollitzer
12 hours ago










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A classical example for such a word is Staubecken which can be read as Stau-becken (from stauen and Becken) or Staub-ecken (from Staub and Ecke).



However, the two possibilites differ in number, as the former is singular and the latter is plural.






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  • I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
    – Janka
    14 hours ago












  • @Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
    – rexkogitans
    10 hours ago










  • Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
    – Janka
    10 hours ago










  • But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
    – RHa
    8 hours ago















up vote
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A classical example for such a word is Staubecken which can be read as Stau-becken (from stauen and Becken) or Staub-ecken (from Staub and Ecke).



However, the two possibilites differ in number, as the former is singular and the latter is plural.






share|improve this answer





















  • I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
    – Janka
    14 hours ago












  • @Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
    – rexkogitans
    10 hours ago










  • Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
    – Janka
    10 hours ago










  • But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
    – RHa
    8 hours ago













up vote
3
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up vote
3
down vote









A classical example for such a word is Staubecken which can be read as Stau-becken (from stauen and Becken) or Staub-ecken (from Staub and Ecke).



However, the two possibilites differ in number, as the former is singular and the latter is plural.






share|improve this answer












A classical example for such a word is Staubecken which can be read as Stau-becken (from stauen and Becken) or Staub-ecken (from Staub and Ecke).



However, the two possibilites differ in number, as the former is singular and the latter is plural.







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  • I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
    – Janka
    14 hours ago












  • @Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
    – rexkogitans
    10 hours ago










  • Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
    – Janka
    10 hours ago










  • But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
    – RHa
    8 hours ago


















  • I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
    – Janka
    14 hours ago












  • @Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
    – rexkogitans
    10 hours ago










  • Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
    – Janka
    10 hours ago










  • But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
    – RHa
    8 hours ago
















I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
– Janka
14 hours ago






I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
– Janka
14 hours ago














@Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
– rexkogitans
10 hours ago




@Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
– rexkogitans
10 hours ago












Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
– Janka
10 hours ago




Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
– Janka
10 hours ago












But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
– RHa
8 hours ago




But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
– RHa
8 hours ago


















 

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