Should I use my appraisal to vent?





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I’ve worked with the same business for over 10 years. Each year I get an appraisal and the same form with the same questions. Generally the previous forms from the last decade have resulted in very similar answers from me, as I’ve been content and enjoying getting some new responsibilities with only a few minor issues I needed raised.



This year my appraisal is due and it’s a very different story. My workplace has become extremely stressful, shambolic, with a manager who is never present except to tell us how terrible we are and who changes major protocols back and forth literally daily. One day I sat at home and wrote a list of 50 moderate or significant problems that I am aware of, just to get them out of my head.



Should I raise all or any of these on my appraisal form or during the meeting? Many are known to the owner/manager but are being ignored. My colleagues feel very similarly to me, so they may also raise a high number of issues.



I am almost definitely going to look for a new job, so I wouldn’t be filling the form or having the meeting with an expectation of everything being resolved. However I don’t want to put notice in and have them complain that I said everything was okay in my appraisal.



Should I bring up this huge list of grievances or how I can approach this issue?










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    What would you realistically expect to accomplish by venting? "However I don’t want to put notice in and have them complain that I said everything was okay in my appraisal." - why not? What possible difference would it make if you leave without complaining? Write down all your grievances on a list. Throw the list away. Get it out of your head and move on.
    – Joe Strazzere
    12 hours ago












  • I’m not sure if it would accomplish anything. It would be a more honest approach than saying ‘everything’s fine.’ My boss takes all resignations as a personal attack, so I feel that he would see me as deceptive if I lied at my appraisal and then quit, which may cause me even more grief for the final working weeks!
    – Swirros
    12 hours ago












  • Instead of saying "everything's fine", say nothing. You'll be better off.
    – Joe Strazzere
    12 hours ago










  • The format of our appraisals require me to answer each question on paper and verbally, so unfortunately I can’t stay silent, though that would be ideal, I agree!
    – Swirros
    12 hours ago










  • Nah, just go get a different job.
    – Fattie
    11 hours ago

















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I’ve worked with the same business for over 10 years. Each year I get an appraisal and the same form with the same questions. Generally the previous forms from the last decade have resulted in very similar answers from me, as I’ve been content and enjoying getting some new responsibilities with only a few minor issues I needed raised.



This year my appraisal is due and it’s a very different story. My workplace has become extremely stressful, shambolic, with a manager who is never present except to tell us how terrible we are and who changes major protocols back and forth literally daily. One day I sat at home and wrote a list of 50 moderate or significant problems that I am aware of, just to get them out of my head.



Should I raise all or any of these on my appraisal form or during the meeting? Many are known to the owner/manager but are being ignored. My colleagues feel very similarly to me, so they may also raise a high number of issues.



I am almost definitely going to look for a new job, so I wouldn’t be filling the form or having the meeting with an expectation of everything being resolved. However I don’t want to put notice in and have them complain that I said everything was okay in my appraisal.



Should I bring up this huge list of grievances or how I can approach this issue?










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    What would you realistically expect to accomplish by venting? "However I don’t want to put notice in and have them complain that I said everything was okay in my appraisal." - why not? What possible difference would it make if you leave without complaining? Write down all your grievances on a list. Throw the list away. Get it out of your head and move on.
    – Joe Strazzere
    12 hours ago












  • I’m not sure if it would accomplish anything. It would be a more honest approach than saying ‘everything’s fine.’ My boss takes all resignations as a personal attack, so I feel that he would see me as deceptive if I lied at my appraisal and then quit, which may cause me even more grief for the final working weeks!
    – Swirros
    12 hours ago












  • Instead of saying "everything's fine", say nothing. You'll be better off.
    – Joe Strazzere
    12 hours ago










  • The format of our appraisals require me to answer each question on paper and verbally, so unfortunately I can’t stay silent, though that would be ideal, I agree!
    – Swirros
    12 hours ago










  • Nah, just go get a different job.
    – Fattie
    11 hours ago













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I’ve worked with the same business for over 10 years. Each year I get an appraisal and the same form with the same questions. Generally the previous forms from the last decade have resulted in very similar answers from me, as I’ve been content and enjoying getting some new responsibilities with only a few minor issues I needed raised.



This year my appraisal is due and it’s a very different story. My workplace has become extremely stressful, shambolic, with a manager who is never present except to tell us how terrible we are and who changes major protocols back and forth literally daily. One day I sat at home and wrote a list of 50 moderate or significant problems that I am aware of, just to get them out of my head.



Should I raise all or any of these on my appraisal form or during the meeting? Many are known to the owner/manager but are being ignored. My colleagues feel very similarly to me, so they may also raise a high number of issues.



I am almost definitely going to look for a new job, so I wouldn’t be filling the form or having the meeting with an expectation of everything being resolved. However I don’t want to put notice in and have them complain that I said everything was okay in my appraisal.



Should I bring up this huge list of grievances or how I can approach this issue?










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I’ve worked with the same business for over 10 years. Each year I get an appraisal and the same form with the same questions. Generally the previous forms from the last decade have resulted in very similar answers from me, as I’ve been content and enjoying getting some new responsibilities with only a few minor issues I needed raised.



This year my appraisal is due and it’s a very different story. My workplace has become extremely stressful, shambolic, with a manager who is never present except to tell us how terrible we are and who changes major protocols back and forth literally daily. One day I sat at home and wrote a list of 50 moderate or significant problems that I am aware of, just to get them out of my head.



Should I raise all or any of these on my appraisal form or during the meeting? Many are known to the owner/manager but are being ignored. My colleagues feel very similarly to me, so they may also raise a high number of issues.



I am almost definitely going to look for a new job, so I wouldn’t be filling the form or having the meeting with an expectation of everything being resolved. However I don’t want to put notice in and have them complain that I said everything was okay in my appraisal.



Should I bring up this huge list of grievances or how I can approach this issue?







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  • 3




    What would you realistically expect to accomplish by venting? "However I don’t want to put notice in and have them complain that I said everything was okay in my appraisal." - why not? What possible difference would it make if you leave without complaining? Write down all your grievances on a list. Throw the list away. Get it out of your head and move on.
    – Joe Strazzere
    12 hours ago












  • I’m not sure if it would accomplish anything. It would be a more honest approach than saying ‘everything’s fine.’ My boss takes all resignations as a personal attack, so I feel that he would see me as deceptive if I lied at my appraisal and then quit, which may cause me even more grief for the final working weeks!
    – Swirros
    12 hours ago












  • Instead of saying "everything's fine", say nothing. You'll be better off.
    – Joe Strazzere
    12 hours ago










  • The format of our appraisals require me to answer each question on paper and verbally, so unfortunately I can’t stay silent, though that would be ideal, I agree!
    – Swirros
    12 hours ago










  • Nah, just go get a different job.
    – Fattie
    11 hours ago














  • 3




    What would you realistically expect to accomplish by venting? "However I don’t want to put notice in and have them complain that I said everything was okay in my appraisal." - why not? What possible difference would it make if you leave without complaining? Write down all your grievances on a list. Throw the list away. Get it out of your head and move on.
    – Joe Strazzere
    12 hours ago












  • I’m not sure if it would accomplish anything. It would be a more honest approach than saying ‘everything’s fine.’ My boss takes all resignations as a personal attack, so I feel that he would see me as deceptive if I lied at my appraisal and then quit, which may cause me even more grief for the final working weeks!
    – Swirros
    12 hours ago












  • Instead of saying "everything's fine", say nothing. You'll be better off.
    – Joe Strazzere
    12 hours ago










  • The format of our appraisals require me to answer each question on paper and verbally, so unfortunately I can’t stay silent, though that would be ideal, I agree!
    – Swirros
    12 hours ago










  • Nah, just go get a different job.
    – Fattie
    11 hours ago








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What would you realistically expect to accomplish by venting? "However I don’t want to put notice in and have them complain that I said everything was okay in my appraisal." - why not? What possible difference would it make if you leave without complaining? Write down all your grievances on a list. Throw the list away. Get it out of your head and move on.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago






What would you realistically expect to accomplish by venting? "However I don’t want to put notice in and have them complain that I said everything was okay in my appraisal." - why not? What possible difference would it make if you leave without complaining? Write down all your grievances on a list. Throw the list away. Get it out of your head and move on.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago














I’m not sure if it would accomplish anything. It would be a more honest approach than saying ‘everything’s fine.’ My boss takes all resignations as a personal attack, so I feel that he would see me as deceptive if I lied at my appraisal and then quit, which may cause me even more grief for the final working weeks!
– Swirros
12 hours ago






I’m not sure if it would accomplish anything. It would be a more honest approach than saying ‘everything’s fine.’ My boss takes all resignations as a personal attack, so I feel that he would see me as deceptive if I lied at my appraisal and then quit, which may cause me even more grief for the final working weeks!
– Swirros
12 hours ago














Instead of saying "everything's fine", say nothing. You'll be better off.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago




Instead of saying "everything's fine", say nothing. You'll be better off.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago












The format of our appraisals require me to answer each question on paper and verbally, so unfortunately I can’t stay silent, though that would be ideal, I agree!
– Swirros
12 hours ago




The format of our appraisals require me to answer each question on paper and verbally, so unfortunately I can’t stay silent, though that would be ideal, I agree!
– Swirros
12 hours ago












Nah, just go get a different job.
– Fattie
11 hours ago




Nah, just go get a different job.
– Fattie
11 hours ago










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Venting is never really a good idea. It doesnt really achieve much, if anything and may come across as you just moaning. With the sheer amount of things you have, thats alot of things to talk at the person with.



An appraisal is generally a space for constructive feedback for both parties, constructive feedback generally means raising an issue constructively and then guiding or proposing a route to a solution. I would propose doing just that.



Prioritise the top most detrimental and aggravating ones that you simply find it difficult to live with, these are the ones to address. Then put forward a feasible solution suggestion, this shows you are interested in trying to fix things, not just complaining and expecting someone to do it for you. Suggest working with and helping fix the issues together for the benefit of the team and the wider company, maybe even take ownership of the ones you can.



Given that you are looking to leave anyway, its probably not productive for either party for you to just sit and vent about your gripes, maybe discuss the wider issues in your exit interview, but again, be constructive with feedback and propose possible solutions, not just venting.






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    First the short answer: NO



    How to approach the issue?




    • Update your resume. This may not go well

    • Start sending out job applications

    • Schedule a meeting with HR, but understand that HR IS NOT YOUR FRIEND Your issues may not be well received

    • Be prepared to move on.


    Now, as to WHY this is not something to take up at your review.



    Your review is there to discuss YOUR strengths and YOUR weaknesses.



    It is simply not the right place or the right time. Schedule another.






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    • Your expectations of an appraisal are different to mine. If there is an issue that is preventing me from doing my job well, I would expect to discuss it as part of the appraisal.
      – Simon B
      7 hours ago










    • @SimonB As I told my people, the time to bring things is BEFORE there is an issue. Or, more precisely: "If something is brought up before a deadline, it is an issue, after, it's an excuse", The same goes for an employee review. If I was giving a review and it turned into a P&M session, the first thing I'd say would be "Why did you bring this up now"? In other words, the only way it would effect your review would be NEGATIVELY.
      – Richard U
      6 hours ago











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    Venting is never really a good idea. It doesnt really achieve much, if anything and may come across as you just moaning. With the sheer amount of things you have, thats alot of things to talk at the person with.



    An appraisal is generally a space for constructive feedback for both parties, constructive feedback generally means raising an issue constructively and then guiding or proposing a route to a solution. I would propose doing just that.



    Prioritise the top most detrimental and aggravating ones that you simply find it difficult to live with, these are the ones to address. Then put forward a feasible solution suggestion, this shows you are interested in trying to fix things, not just complaining and expecting someone to do it for you. Suggest working with and helping fix the issues together for the benefit of the team and the wider company, maybe even take ownership of the ones you can.



    Given that you are looking to leave anyway, its probably not productive for either party for you to just sit and vent about your gripes, maybe discuss the wider issues in your exit interview, but again, be constructive with feedback and propose possible solutions, not just venting.






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      Venting is never really a good idea. It doesnt really achieve much, if anything and may come across as you just moaning. With the sheer amount of things you have, thats alot of things to talk at the person with.



      An appraisal is generally a space for constructive feedback for both parties, constructive feedback generally means raising an issue constructively and then guiding or proposing a route to a solution. I would propose doing just that.



      Prioritise the top most detrimental and aggravating ones that you simply find it difficult to live with, these are the ones to address. Then put forward a feasible solution suggestion, this shows you are interested in trying to fix things, not just complaining and expecting someone to do it for you. Suggest working with and helping fix the issues together for the benefit of the team and the wider company, maybe even take ownership of the ones you can.



      Given that you are looking to leave anyway, its probably not productive for either party for you to just sit and vent about your gripes, maybe discuss the wider issues in your exit interview, but again, be constructive with feedback and propose possible solutions, not just venting.






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        Venting is never really a good idea. It doesnt really achieve much, if anything and may come across as you just moaning. With the sheer amount of things you have, thats alot of things to talk at the person with.



        An appraisal is generally a space for constructive feedback for both parties, constructive feedback generally means raising an issue constructively and then guiding or proposing a route to a solution. I would propose doing just that.



        Prioritise the top most detrimental and aggravating ones that you simply find it difficult to live with, these are the ones to address. Then put forward a feasible solution suggestion, this shows you are interested in trying to fix things, not just complaining and expecting someone to do it for you. Suggest working with and helping fix the issues together for the benefit of the team and the wider company, maybe even take ownership of the ones you can.



        Given that you are looking to leave anyway, its probably not productive for either party for you to just sit and vent about your gripes, maybe discuss the wider issues in your exit interview, but again, be constructive with feedback and propose possible solutions, not just venting.






        share|improve this answer












        Venting is never really a good idea. It doesnt really achieve much, if anything and may come across as you just moaning. With the sheer amount of things you have, thats alot of things to talk at the person with.



        An appraisal is generally a space for constructive feedback for both parties, constructive feedback generally means raising an issue constructively and then guiding or proposing a route to a solution. I would propose doing just that.



        Prioritise the top most detrimental and aggravating ones that you simply find it difficult to live with, these are the ones to address. Then put forward a feasible solution suggestion, this shows you are interested in trying to fix things, not just complaining and expecting someone to do it for you. Suggest working with and helping fix the issues together for the benefit of the team and the wider company, maybe even take ownership of the ones you can.



        Given that you are looking to leave anyway, its probably not productive for either party for you to just sit and vent about your gripes, maybe discuss the wider issues in your exit interview, but again, be constructive with feedback and propose possible solutions, not just venting.







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            First the short answer: NO



            How to approach the issue?




            • Update your resume. This may not go well

            • Start sending out job applications

            • Schedule a meeting with HR, but understand that HR IS NOT YOUR FRIEND Your issues may not be well received

            • Be prepared to move on.


            Now, as to WHY this is not something to take up at your review.



            Your review is there to discuss YOUR strengths and YOUR weaknesses.



            It is simply not the right place or the right time. Schedule another.






            share|improve this answer





















            • Your expectations of an appraisal are different to mine. If there is an issue that is preventing me from doing my job well, I would expect to discuss it as part of the appraisal.
              – Simon B
              7 hours ago










            • @SimonB As I told my people, the time to bring things is BEFORE there is an issue. Or, more precisely: "If something is brought up before a deadline, it is an issue, after, it's an excuse", The same goes for an employee review. If I was giving a review and it turned into a P&M session, the first thing I'd say would be "Why did you bring this up now"? In other words, the only way it would effect your review would be NEGATIVELY.
              – Richard U
              6 hours ago















            up vote
            1
            down vote













            First the short answer: NO



            How to approach the issue?




            • Update your resume. This may not go well

            • Start sending out job applications

            • Schedule a meeting with HR, but understand that HR IS NOT YOUR FRIEND Your issues may not be well received

            • Be prepared to move on.


            Now, as to WHY this is not something to take up at your review.



            Your review is there to discuss YOUR strengths and YOUR weaknesses.



            It is simply not the right place or the right time. Schedule another.






            share|improve this answer





















            • Your expectations of an appraisal are different to mine. If there is an issue that is preventing me from doing my job well, I would expect to discuss it as part of the appraisal.
              – Simon B
              7 hours ago










            • @SimonB As I told my people, the time to bring things is BEFORE there is an issue. Or, more precisely: "If something is brought up before a deadline, it is an issue, after, it's an excuse", The same goes for an employee review. If I was giving a review and it turned into a P&M session, the first thing I'd say would be "Why did you bring this up now"? In other words, the only way it would effect your review would be NEGATIVELY.
              – Richard U
              6 hours ago













            up vote
            1
            down vote










            up vote
            1
            down vote









            First the short answer: NO



            How to approach the issue?




            • Update your resume. This may not go well

            • Start sending out job applications

            • Schedule a meeting with HR, but understand that HR IS NOT YOUR FRIEND Your issues may not be well received

            • Be prepared to move on.


            Now, as to WHY this is not something to take up at your review.



            Your review is there to discuss YOUR strengths and YOUR weaknesses.



            It is simply not the right place or the right time. Schedule another.






            share|improve this answer












            First the short answer: NO



            How to approach the issue?




            • Update your resume. This may not go well

            • Start sending out job applications

            • Schedule a meeting with HR, but understand that HR IS NOT YOUR FRIEND Your issues may not be well received

            • Be prepared to move on.


            Now, as to WHY this is not something to take up at your review.



            Your review is there to discuss YOUR strengths and YOUR weaknesses.



            It is simply not the right place or the right time. Schedule another.







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            • Your expectations of an appraisal are different to mine. If there is an issue that is preventing me from doing my job well, I would expect to discuss it as part of the appraisal.
              – Simon B
              7 hours ago










            • @SimonB As I told my people, the time to bring things is BEFORE there is an issue. Or, more precisely: "If something is brought up before a deadline, it is an issue, after, it's an excuse", The same goes for an employee review. If I was giving a review and it turned into a P&M session, the first thing I'd say would be "Why did you bring this up now"? In other words, the only way it would effect your review would be NEGATIVELY.
              – Richard U
              6 hours ago


















            • Your expectations of an appraisal are different to mine. If there is an issue that is preventing me from doing my job well, I would expect to discuss it as part of the appraisal.
              – Simon B
              7 hours ago










            • @SimonB As I told my people, the time to bring things is BEFORE there is an issue. Or, more precisely: "If something is brought up before a deadline, it is an issue, after, it's an excuse", The same goes for an employee review. If I was giving a review and it turned into a P&M session, the first thing I'd say would be "Why did you bring this up now"? In other words, the only way it would effect your review would be NEGATIVELY.
              – Richard U
              6 hours ago
















            Your expectations of an appraisal are different to mine. If there is an issue that is preventing me from doing my job well, I would expect to discuss it as part of the appraisal.
            – Simon B
            7 hours ago




            Your expectations of an appraisal are different to mine. If there is an issue that is preventing me from doing my job well, I would expect to discuss it as part of the appraisal.
            – Simon B
            7 hours ago












            @SimonB As I told my people, the time to bring things is BEFORE there is an issue. Or, more precisely: "If something is brought up before a deadline, it is an issue, after, it's an excuse", The same goes for an employee review. If I was giving a review and it turned into a P&M session, the first thing I'd say would be "Why did you bring this up now"? In other words, the only way it would effect your review would be NEGATIVELY.
            – Richard U
            6 hours ago




            @SimonB As I told my people, the time to bring things is BEFORE there is an issue. Or, more precisely: "If something is brought up before a deadline, it is an issue, after, it's an excuse", The same goes for an employee review. If I was giving a review and it turned into a P&M session, the first thing I'd say would be "Why did you bring this up now"? In other words, the only way it would effect your review would be NEGATIVELY.
            – Richard U
            6 hours ago










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